SRL Archive - Banned from RS

2 accounts banned within seconds


adam2348

2014-11-18 06:01:52

Note: I am not blaming Simba or any scripts, I know the risks. Just giving a heads up, in case they are doing something new.

I started up Simba, and updated SRL.
I opened the script I was using, iKaramjaFisher v1.1
saw that it started fishing and loaded a second window

then i got almost instantly logged out of the 2nd account and must have been already logged out on the other, because it was out too.

checked the message center for both, and both were perm banned.

none of my other bots are banned, just the two i just logged into.

the second picture says it detected 3rd party software and verified it was a botting software.
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Harrier

2014-11-18 06:08:16

Sometimes they delay the ban till your next login

cosmasjdz

2014-11-18 06:26:13

From: adam2348
I started up Simba, and updated SRL.
I opened the script I was using, iKaramjaFisher v1.1
saw that it started fishing and loaded a second window

then i got almost instantly logged out of the 2nd account and must have been already logged out on the other, because it was out too.

checked the message center for both, and both were perm banned.

none of my other bots are banned, just the two i just logged into.

the second picture says it detected 3rd party software and verified it was a botting software.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]24467[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]24468[/ATTACH]


Usually you get ban during first 10 seconds of next login. Or instant ban while playing if stuck in a huge repetetive botish loop :). What i can say after started to film botting sessions i think jagex is impotent to find any botting stuff regardless if you got reported or not. One of my test account surviving 5th month of constant reports and no marks he will be banned in the future as long as it doesnt stuck in infinitive loop or repeats thinks over and over again without randomness. No confirmed bans yet without getting stuck in a loop/ using no randomness.

Best example is my spider eggs collectors. Literally NO antiban, just 2 types of randomness: hovers summ skill ad rotates screen if finds spider instead of eggs. Got 4 accounts 2-4 weeks running no single ban :) Cause no stuck in a loop, one fail-failsafe one time then if failsafe failed one time-terminate. Because if you make failsafe to use everytime your main function fails and your mainfunction fails always for example you get behaviour changed by jagex trick like they do: make minimap invisible, make objects in inventory transparent, make compass click face to wrong dirrection, makes actionbar bars or actions transparent/shifted. That the stuff i recognized mostly on that test account. They try to catch it by adding weird stuff and hoping ill start use failsafes constantly just after they add that. Instead of that i just use one failsafe then terminate or terminate imediately :) Thats better than using failsafes because normal person getting transparent stuff in backpack would think of a bug and reload browser rite?

acow

2014-11-18 07:00:43

what were you doing on the accounts prior to this?

KeepBotting

2014-11-18 07:47:42

Sorry to hear that.

I doubt it was solely the responsibility of my script or Simba that led to your ban, Jagex never bans accounts as soon as they detect macro software being used. They wait a while (usually until the next major game update) and then ban them all at once, so no one can tell exactly what tipped the scales.

How many hours per day had you been running these accounts? And for how long? Had you used any other script, other bots?

adam2348

2014-11-18 13:08:43

From: No Lifer
what were you doing on the accounts prior to this?


with these particular 2 bots, they only used this script.

adam2348

2014-11-18 13:19:02

From: KeepBotting
Sorry to hear that.

I doubt it was solely the responsibility of my script or Simba that led to your ban, Jagex never bans accounts as soon as they detect macro software being used. They wait a while (usually until the next major game update) and then ban them all at once, so no one can tell exactly what tipped the scales.

How many hours per day had you been running these accounts? And for how long? Had you used any other script, other bots?


I'm not blaming the script, or Simba, just trying to give a heads up. Them Jagex is a sneaky bunch :P

I ran 4 bots total, these two only used this script. I just started within the last month and logged a 6-12 hours a day, at random intervals during the day, skipping some days. I'm pretty sure it was probably reported when it was dead and like 1 or 2 other people fishing, trying to talk and the bots didn't respond. The script didn't seem to have any bottish behaviors that I happened to notice.

The other 2 bots were using the script, EvergreenChop&Bank R6 thru R8. About a week or so ago, I switched those two to the iKaramjaFisher v1.1 script too. They are currently unbanned. I was leaving these 2 out on some botting sessions.

adam2348

2014-11-18 13:26:52

From: cosmasjdz
Usually you get ban during first 10 seconds of next login. Or instant ban while playing if stuck in a huge repetetive botish loop :). What i can say after started to film botting sessions i think jagex is impotent to find any botting stuff regardless if you got reported or not. One of my test account surviving 5th month of constant reports and no marks he will be banned in the future as long as it doesnt stuck in infinitive loop or repeats thinks over and over again without randomness. No confirmed bans yet without getting stuck in a loop/ using no randomness.

Best example is my spider eggs collectors. Literally NO antiban, just 2 types of randomness: hovers summ skill ad rotates screen if finds spider instead of eggs. Got 4 accounts 2-4 weeks running no single ban :) Cause no stuck in a loop, one fail-failsafe one time then if failsafe failed one time-terminate. Because if you make failsafe to use everytime your main function fails and your mainfunction fails always for example you get behaviour changed by jagex trick like they do: make minimap invisible, make objects in inventory transparent, make compass click face to wrong dirrection, makes actionbar bars or actions transparent/shifted. That the stuff i recognized mostly on that test account. They try to catch it by adding weird stuff and hoping ill start use failsafes constantly just after they add that. Instead of that i just use one failsafe then terminate or terminate imediately :) Thats better than using failsafes because normal person getting transparent stuff in backpack would think of a bug and reload browser rite?


I agree that "looking like a bot" because of being caught in a loop or specific randomness is a tell tale of botting. I don't know what their current detection is like, but I've been banned, back in the day, for scripts that were too specific. For instance, the "spiral" to search for things and specific pixels always being clicked.

i think scripts that use the action bar hot keys seem to be some of the least detectable.

overall, i think it's a fun game trying not to get caught :P

acow

2014-11-18 13:28:14

From: adam2348
with these particular 2 bots, they only used this script.


I'm talking about the fact that your title says "banned within seconds"

This is almost never the case, you were most likely botting on the accounts the prior time were that they logged into the game. Once jagex has enough proof that you're cheating, they can set your account to be banned within a few seconds - a few minutes after your next login. I've had it happen to quite a few accounts ^_^

The best advice I can give you is to only bot something that wont [quickly] result in your account being reported.

King

2014-11-18 14:30:25

You were running the accounts on the same IP? Have you previously been banned on this IP?

Multiple accounts all doing the same thing at the same times is a bit suspicious, it could have simply been they noticed these two bots had a similar start pattern or they were often on at the same time. It could also be a report, a mod that confirmed in-game, or simply the amount of time spent botting. The safest in my experience is with a private script (other bots will not be using the same routines ect.. randomness only goes so far with 1-2k users) and on a separate IP address with each bot. You were also betting a pretty high risk area (lobsters?) along with being a F2P, they see you as no source of income.

Honestly sounds like they are just coming down a bit harder right now. I know several people who bot regularly and are fine, others who are banned very quick. It is usually not just "seconds" but seconds after their decision. I'm sorry you were banned and hope you recover whatever was lost, it sucks man.