SRL Archive - Banned from RS

ggwp


acow

2014-08-11 12:14:57

got banned on 4 accs today, w8n to see if my other accs are getting banned.

all 4 were mains using only simba, probs gonna keepbotting but gonna be smarter about it
edit: all were permed with no previous bans for botting & it was only the accs that I botted last night/today

Clarity

2014-08-11 12:44:33

More background on usage would be helpful I think. Sorry to hear about this :(

Unfold

2014-08-11 12:49:44

Was this rs3 or osrs? Did you use a private script or no?

Jake

2014-08-11 13:50:02

From: No Lifer

all 4 were mains using only simba, probs gonna keepbotting but gonna be smarter about it

KeepBotting

2014-08-11 14:25:38

godammit i got banned too

acow

2014-08-11 14:41:27

From: Clarity
More background on usage would be helpful I think. Sorry to hear about this :(


bank skilling herb cleaning & unfs when they got gfed

From: Unfold
Was this rs3 or osrs? Did you use a private script or no?


all private scripts

Clarity

2014-08-11 14:46:06

If your usage was reasonably human then perhaps the antiban wasn't good enough?

tulpiuka

2014-08-11 15:38:07

it can't be just reports. My fresh ones we're banned who were botting in an area that nobody visits. 2 of them so far that i checked. No big deal they're no worth to me.

acow

2014-08-12 11:08:48

From: tulpiuka
it can't be just reports. My fresh ones we're banned who were botting in an area that nobody visits. 2 of them so far that i checked. No big deal they're no worth to me.

I doubt it was a mod coming up to me / people reporting.

one of the accs I'd only started botting yesterday (it hadn't been botted since before eoc & never had a macroing warning of any kind).

the other 3 had been going pretty hard for the past 2 weeks

2 of the accs had 80+ slayer & 95 pray along with other good main stats (cant remember em all perfectly tbh :p )
1 was a beastly rune pure, 50 def 80 att 99 str/magic 96 summoning 97 dung 2-3 sets of full tribrid void (with the chaotics & deflector pieces to match)
edit: oh and 3 of them had the 5 year vet cape =p
0 macroing warnings on all of them (I have access to more mains that've previously been reset for botting so I didn't touch them, thinking that these would get a warning if I was to get banned…instead of perms -.- )

lanadekat

2014-08-12 11:11:23

had same thing happen 2 times ( 3 acc's banned )
Didn't happen anymore since I updated antiban.

acow

2014-08-12 11:15:53

From: lanadekat
had same thing happen 2 times ( 3 acc's banned )
Didn't happen anymore since I updated antiban.


yeah, gonna have to have a LOT more focus on the antiban. jagex got vicious ^_^

tulpiuka

2014-08-12 11:22:11

It has to do with a new or old account that hasn't played in a while or at all being on like 4-10 hours straight.

acow

2014-08-12 11:51:35

From: tulpiuka
It has to do with a new or old account that hasn't played in a while or at all being on like 4-10 hours straight.


that's not completely true, the account that I just started doing the day before it got banned had been actively pvming & questing for about a month prior to the ban.

tulpiuka

2014-08-12 12:24:55

Then it was a player report. That's the only explanation. We're you pvming with a bot or legit? How long you botted on it a day, more than 6 hours?

lanadekat

2014-08-12 13:26:17

From: No Lifer
yeah, gonna have to have a LOT more focus on the antiban. jagex got vicious ^_^

as long as powerbot doesn't change simba is safe.
If powerbot would change to color detection … But I don't think it will cus that would break all scripts

acow

2014-08-12 13:42:50

From: tulpiuka
Then it was a player report. That's the only explanation. We're you pvming with a bot or legit? How long you botted on it a day, more than 6 hours?

legit pvming & questing. more than 6 hours, why?

From: lanadekat
as long as powerbot doesn't change simba is safe.
If powerbot would change to color detection … But I don't think it will cus that would break all scripts

why are you talking about powerbot? I'm confused.

lanadekat

2014-08-12 13:56:14

From: No Lifer
legit pvming & questing. more than 6 hours, why?


why are you talking about powerbot? I'm confused.

as far as I know is jagex focusing on bannning powerbot users.
If they can ban all powerbot users they banned 90% of all botters.
Jagex detects the powerbot client, but if powerbot will become a color detection bot, jagex will try to find methods to detect color detection bots … this will hurt simba
But I don't think powerbot will change to color detection.

tulpiuka

2014-08-12 15:49:43

But they are making a color bot. It's coming out in about 1-2 months or so, i've read.

tulpiuka

2014-08-12 15:51:50

Yeah even if they don't ban players based on their login times there's a lot of factors to account. They also said that theres just a few players who play 10+ hours a day every day. Others do too but not every day. So you we're either reported or just hit by a random ban? I don't think so. It was a report.

TylerT

2014-08-12 16:04:58

From: Jagex
Please be assured that we don't ban accounts on login time ALONE.


Some of you are missing the alone part and thinking they don't care about login times. Login time is a factor when banning accounts, but not the only factor.

bonsai

2014-08-12 16:05:22

You should post the herb script for peer review; based on what you said it's a strong suspect. If they were nooby account I might think otherwise.

The Mayor

2014-08-12 16:08:20

Running 24h 7 days a week no ban :)

slacky

2014-08-12 16:26:15

From: tulpiuka
But they are making a color bot. It's coming out in about 1-2 months or so, i've read.

Such statements requires some references. So be a good boy and show us something that backs that statement..

tulpiuka

2014-08-13 03:43:00

From: slacky
Such statements requires some references. So be a good boy and show us something that backs that statement..

I honestly thought this a common knowledge? I keep tabs on multiple bots. As for PB, go to them and search "looking glass" 6.1. Now it doesn't exactly says color bot on that particular thread. But the one i've read before (a few weeks back or a month, i can't find it now) they said they are "leaving" reflection injection and "downgrading".. which can only mean color/OR something else, which i doubt. But downgrade? Color seems even more advanced if done right.

The Mayor

2014-08-13 04:18:52

From: tulpiuka
I honestly thought this a common knowledge? I keep tabs on multiple bots. As for PB, go to them and search "looking glass" 6.1. Now it doesn't exactly says color bot on that particular thread. But the one i've read before (a few weeks back or a month, i can't find it now) they said they are "leaving" reflection injection and "downgrading".. which can only mean color/OR something else, which i doubt. But downgrade? Color seems even more advanced if done right.


If they move to colour their community will die.

Ian

2014-08-13 04:34:36

From: The Mayor
If they move to colour their community will die.


Yep. 95% of their scripters would be unable to make scripts until they learned, and many would probably just leave to script for a different java bot. Meanwhile the whole leecherbase would be complaining that there aren't any scripts in the SDN besides a high alcher and a bone buryer.

slacky

2014-08-13 04:44:40

From: tulpiuka
I honestly thought this a common knowledge? I keep tabs on multiple bots. As for PB, go to them and search "looking glass" 6.1. Now it doesn't exactly says color bot on that particular thread. But the one i've read before (a few weeks back or a month, i can't find it now) they said they are "leaving" reflection injection and "downgrading".. which can only mean color/OR something else, which i doubt. But downgrade? Color seems even more advanced if done right.

So I did as you said.. there is nothing in that thread which even comes close to hinting towards making a color-based system, so i have my doubts.

tulpiuka

2014-08-13 06:09:12

Yeah since they don't have to get he colors and i take it scripting for color is leaps more difficult comparing to reflection. Where it just lays everything for you. Still. If they are downgrading from that what else can it be other than color? I have my doubts too but i don't see any other way.

tulpiuka

2014-08-13 06:11:31

From: The Mayor
If they move to colour their community will die.

That would be good and bad at the same time. Good, less bots. Bad less bots. While jagex are busy dealing with other bots, they don't mind us, what happens if pb moves to color or something similar, it's ggwp indeed.

The Mayor

2014-08-13 06:39:54

From: tulpiuka
Yeah since they don't have to get he colors and i take it scripting for color is leaps more difficult comparing to reflection. Where it just lays everything for you. Still. If they are downgrading from that what else can it be other than color? I have my doubts too but i don't see any other way.


They might go down the openGL/DirectX hooking route. We can already do these things with Simba (thanks to Brandon) but no body really uses them to their potential.

tulpiuka

2014-08-13 07:55:52

From: The Mayor
They might go down the openGL/DirectX hooking route. We can already do these things with Simba (thanks to Brandon) but no body really uses them to their potential.



That's probably it, i don't see now pb going color, it would really end their community.

slacky

2014-08-13 09:05:31

From: tulpiuka
That's probably it, i don't see now pb going color, it would really end their community.

So much for your initial statement..
- «they are making a color bot» -tulpiuka

Harrier

2014-08-13 09:19:11

Just to clear everything up. PowerBot are not turning into a colour bot. RSBot 6.1 will be a reflection client, I could not find the post but Timer proved this via saying they are not going to have models due to the change.

Unfold

2014-08-13 09:40:59

From: Harrier
Just to clear everything up. PowerBot are not turning into a colour bot. RSBot 6.1 will be a reflection client, I could not find the post but Timer proved this via saying they are not going to have models due to the change.


Reflection != Color Bot

tulpiuka

2014-08-13 09:48:02

From: slacky
So much for your initial statement..
- «they are making a color bot» -tulpiuka

No need to be mad, i'm concerned too, if they do go color, theres going to be more eyes on us.

slacky

2014-08-13 11:08:36

From: tulpiuka
No need to be mad, i'm concerned too, if they do go color, theres going to be more eyes on us.

You stated it as it was a fact, which it is not. And that gives me reason to be slightly mad, I don't like a liar.

Ref: «i'm concerned too»
You are implying that I am concerned, which I am not.. I would be rather glad if they made some sort of color-based botting software.

acow

2014-08-13 11:11:00

From: lanadekat
as far as I know is jagex focusing on bannning powerbot users.
If they can ban all powerbot users they banned 90% of all botters.
Jagex detects the powerbot client, but if powerbot will become a color detection bot, jagex will try to find methods to detect color detection bots … this will hurt simba
But I don't think powerbot will change to color detection.

From what I know about paris (reading his posts & speaking with him), I doubt he'd be interested in color botting, however timer is a whole other story and he doesn't really post publicly much either =/

From: TylerT


Some of you are missing the alone part and thinking they don't care about login times. Login time is a factor when banning accounts, but not the only factor.

If you read what I've posted about it on this thread, you'll see that it was a non-issue in this specific situation & if you view other peoples posts on villavu in general, you'll see that it's a non-issue there too (many people have botted for VERY long times without having a problem, both very recently and in the past)

tulpiuka

2014-08-13 11:35:30

From: slacky
You stated it as it was a fact, which it is not. And that gives me reason to be slightly mad, I don't like a liar.

Ref: «i'm concerned too»
You are implying that I am concerned, which I am not.. I would be rather glad if they made some sort of color-based botting software.

it may be or may not be. Moving from injection can mean two things, color or dancing rainbow ponies. Either way it's a good thing. And what do you mean a liar? The info is as good as it gets. Want to make sure? Surf pb forum threads til u find an admin post about it.

Selyth

2014-08-13 15:26:23

Same thing just happened to me using OSBot today. I had the account since 2008 and she finally comes to rest jsut two days before my birthday ;(

Ian

2014-08-13 16:27:36

From: tulpiuka
it may be or may not be. Moving from injection can mean two things, color or dancing rainbow ponies. Either way it's a good thing. And what do you mean a liar? The info is as good as it gets. Want to make sure? Surf pb forum threads til u find an admin post about it.


So which one is reflection: colour or dancing rainbow ponies?

And instead of telling people to surf PB forums to find the post, why not just post the link here?

tulpiuka

2014-08-14 03:50:00

From: BMWxi
So which one is reflection: colour or dancing rainbow ponies?

And instead of telling people to surf PB forums to find the post, why not just post the link here?


Apparently it's something they call instrumentation/reflection. http://technonstop.com/java-singleton-reflection-and-lazy-initialization

http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/1189515-rsbot-61-looking-glass%E2%84%A2-defence-system/ <— read through pages 1 and 2 to get the idea.

From the looks it's not a color bot, but will perform like one. Let the client load, attach to it and inspect things without modifying anything. I'd say it's color brother. Inspecty.

The Mayor

2014-08-14 04:28:05

From: tulpiuka
. I'd say it's color brother. Inspecty.


LOL, I just read the first few pages. There is NOTHING about colour. They even state they're just changing from injection to reflection.


From: tulpiuka

From the looks it's not a color bot, but will perform like one.


Reflection <> colour. I'd stop digging if I were you :p

tulpiuka

2014-08-14 05:10:09

From: The Mayor
LOL, I just read the first few pages. There is NOTHING about colour. They even state they're just changing from injection to reflection.




Reflection <> colour. I'd stop digging if I were you :p


Yeah that was bad. Why did they moved from reflection the last time? Was it because they needed to update it every time rs updated?

Harrier

2014-08-14 05:40:40

From: tulpiuka
Yeah that was bad. Why did they moved from reflection the last time? Was it because they needed to update it every time rs updated?

They were always injection.

KeepBotting

2014-08-14 08:32:44

From: Selyth
Same thing just happened to me using OSBot today. I had the account since 2008 and she finally comes to rest jsut two days before my birthday ;(


>osbot

Selyth

2014-08-14 14:29:48

From: KeepBotting
>osbot


R.I.P Slavery3000 in loving memory 2007-2014 we had a good ride ;(

Ian

2014-08-14 14:38:12

From: Selyth
R.I.P Slavery3000 in loving memory 2007-2014 we had a good ride ;(


Really though what else could you expect trying to keep slavery alive in 2014? There are laws now.

Selyth

2014-08-14 15:37:30

From: BMWxi
Really though what else could you expect trying to keep slavery alive in 2014? There are laws now.

I shoulda known better. Now I'm gonna have to pawn off my whole Tourist Trap operation in the desert :(

Sulferx

2014-08-23 10:08:36

Do we know with confidence if they care about IP or not? I've seen some say yes and other say no.

Any number of things could've happen to cause at least one accounts to get examined. It might have been once they saw the heavy playtime on 2-4 accounts from the same IP that your fate was sealed.

Sorry to hear about the bans, though. Shit sucks.

acow

2014-08-23 10:58:49

From: Sulferx
Do we know with confidence if they care about IP or not? I've seen some say yes and other say no.

Any number of things could've happen to cause at least one accounts to get examined. It might have been once they saw the heavy playtime on 2-4 accounts from the same IP that your fate was sealed.

Sorry to hear about the bans, though. Shit sucks.


I'm fairly confident that they (up until now anyways) don't ip ban, 99% of the time (for botting & rwt)

however it's impossible to say anything about flagging ips, I personally have had many macroing and a few RWT ips on the same ip that I'm still using and non of my accounts have ever been incorrectly banned.