SRL Archive - General Botting Help

Help with lag


tulpiuka

2014-07-31 06:41:31

I'm running simba on a virtual machine. Regular rs client runs fast no fps lag on opengl. But when i start up simba and the client it lags a lot. Giving vm 2 cores doesn't help either. Nor adding more ram. Is simba that heavy on virtualization?

KeepBotting

2014-07-31 07:15:00

Don't use a VM. It kills FPS, and since Simba is a color bot, it kind of needs a lag-free game environment to function properly.

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 04:37:35

Yes. :(. I want to use vm so i can mac spoof and give different ips for each bot or two i run. If i ran them all on a single ip/mac address, one gets caught, they all go down. That's a big no no. If using vm is out of question. Do you know any other methods beside vps whatever? I want to run local.

Seohyun

2014-08-01 05:14:06

Well a vm usually use their own graphic driver, which is way, way weaker. For example vmware uses vmware tools to process graphics and it is way weaker then when you run it on your host.
May I ask, why do you need to run it in a vm?

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 05:25:16

From: Seohyun
Well a vm usually use their own graphic driver, which is way, way weaker. For example vmware uses vmware tools to process graphics and it is way weaker then when you run it on your host.
May I ask, why do you need to run it in a vm?


Already explained. I'm now experimenting with different os. From the looks windows xp runs simba like crap on virtualbox and vmware. Virtualbox graphic drivers don't even work except for safe mode.

Seohyun

2014-08-01 05:30:56

From: tulpiuka
Already explained. I'm now experimenting with different os. From the looks windows xp runs simba like crap on virtualbox and vmware. Virtualbox graphic drivers don't even work except for safe mode.


Well your other options are very limited but I wouldn't worry too much about spoofing your mac unless you run like 20+ bots on your host.

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 05:47:58

From: Seohyun
Well your other options are very limited but I wouldn't worry too much about spoofing your mac unless you run like 20+ bots on your host.


So youre saying it's safe to run like 6 bots on simba on my main windows? How do you know, are you doing it yourself?

Seohyun

2014-08-01 05:48:31

From: tulpiuka
So youre saying it's safe to run like 6 bots on simba on my main windows? How do you know, are you doing it yourself?


I used to run 17 bots on my windows.
It's not how jagex is detecting bots.

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 06:02:05

From: Seohyun
I used to run 17 bots on my windows.
It's not how jagex is detecting bots.


used to run, how long ago, In the last 8 months botting been hard. Most popular bots are broken or 100% detectable. Except color bots.

Seohyun

2014-08-01 06:04:00

From: tulpiuka
used to run, how long ago, In the last 8 months botting been hard. Most popular bots are broken or 100% detectable. Except color bots.


Ye I'm perfectly aware of the situation but I am very certain that they do not use a mac adress to detect a bot. The flawless method is to detect bot clients(which is their main thing right now), mouse movements/patterns.

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 06:08:06

So are you running more than 2 bots on the same pc right now?

KeepBotting

2014-08-01 07:07:13

From: tulpiuka
Yes. :(. I want to use vm so i can mac spoof and give different ips for each bot or two i run. If i ran them all on a single ip/mac address, one gets caught, they all go down. That's a big no no. If using vm is out of question. Do you know any other methods beside vps whatever? I want to run local.


No, no, no, no, no.

Jagex doesn't record or track your IP address. The multibans of which you speak are in fact done by the jagexcache. All you need to do is use CPAU to run Simba from other Windows user accounts (and thus, different caches) and you'll be fine.

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 07:21:20

I see. CPAU doesn't work on win7. Do you know of any similar app with visual gui that i could control multiple user accounts and easily switch between them without having to use default windows slow ass switching?

Well so far i managed to create another user acc. Surprisingly it didn't have runescape installed but a bunch of other games we're there to play. (no rscache on new user acc (: ) And i'm using taskmanager to fast switch between users. Is there some app that could show me LIVE whats going on the other user account or switching is the only way?

KeepBotting

2014-08-01 07:49:27

From: tulpiuka
I see. CPAU doesn't work on win7. Do you know of any similar app with visual gui that i could control multiple user accounts and easily switch between them without having to use default windows slow ass switching?


CPAU works fine on Windows 7. I use it every day. Add my Skype, and I'll help you after work.

theorange

2014-08-01 08:07:43

From: KeepBotting
Don't use a VM. It kills FPS, and since Simba is a color bot, it kind of needs a lag-free game environment to function properly.

If you can't use Vm's, how would you utilize VPN's on a computer, if you were already running X number of bots on the main host, and wanted to run additional ones, but on different ips, on the same machine. Is there a program that can run other programs through a VPN? (without it being a VM)

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 08:12:33

From: KeepBotting
CPAU works fine on Windows 7. I use it every day. Add my Skype, and I'll help you after work.

Okay i've sent skype request. For me CPAU just flashes cmd code and shuts down. I must be doing something wrong.

tulpiuka

2014-08-01 08:14:40

There are ip maskers but keepbotting knows what he's doing.

bonsai

2014-08-01 11:52:46

From: tulpiuka
used to run, how long ago, In the last 8 months botting been hard. Most popular bots are broken or 100% detectable. Except color bots.



Check out this thread for some recent info from someone who is pushing things.

KeepBotting

2014-08-01 16:57:27

From: theorange
If you can't use Vm's, how would you utilize VPN's on a computer, if you were already running X number of bots on the main host, and wanted to run additional ones, but on different ips, on the same machine. Is there a program that can run other programs through a VPN? (without it being a VM)


Your entire post is irrelevant because IP changing/masking/spoofing and VPNs aren't needed. They do nothing, because Jagex doesn't (and has never) tracked your accounts by IP.

theorange

2014-08-01 18:10:11

From: KeepBotting
Your entire post is irrelevant because IP changing/masking/spoofing and VPNs aren't needed. They do nothing, because Jagex doesn't (and has never) tracked your accounts by IP.


Good to know! I did not know that. So, as I do not know much about this, does it matter if you create say 100 accounts on a single IP address? Or as you said before, ip doesn't matter?

And if you have your botting accounts, all on one IP, and then you transfer the gold to your mule, if the mule were to get banned, it would not be because of it having the same IP address as the bots?

— I still need any input on my lag on my servers

tulpiuka

2014-08-02 03:43:56

From: theorange
Good to know! I did not know that. So, as I do not know much about this, does it matter if you create say 100 accounts on a single IP address? Or as you said before, ip doesn't matter?

And if you have your botting accounts, all on one IP, and then you transfer the gold to your mule, if the mule were to get banned, it would not be because of it having the same IP address as the bots?

— I still need any input on my lag on my servers


Up until now i been using virtual machines. if one got banned,others stayed untouched. Anyway i can't use simba with vm's. I may be able later but now forget about it.