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RS Is Probably monitoring this Website


Spectral

2014-03-03 22:23:41

I Believe that Runescape is monitoring this website regularly because the recent graphical updates have been made in such a way that the bots don't work anymore. For example, the willow chopper for RS3. The color of the "Wise Wizard"'s house has been changed to look like the bankers. I believe that we should make it illegal for Jagex employees or anyone associated with them to access this website. Or, at least make a restriction as to how players can access scripts. We might be seeing many bans soon

Sk1nyNerd

2014-03-03 22:39:39

ohhh the pros of having your source code posted for everybody to see :D

Flight

2014-03-03 22:50:54

Of course, this is nothing new.

Ashaman88

2014-03-03 22:53:52

if you encounter bugs in the include post them here: http://villavu.com/forum/project.php

wthomas

2014-03-04 07:11:49

I dont think color bots should be jagex's concern until they have removed the java bots. Its the private java bots that are being used to goldfarm. Having said that, if they successfully find a way to remove the java bots (besides source obfuscation again) by establishing differences between player's behavior/mouse movements/playstyle etc then well, we'd get destroyed aswell. By now they must know that changing a few colors here and there will make no difference at all, any scripts that were actively developed would probably by patched withing a few days.

If I was Jagex i think i'd try and find a way to compare the players playstyle at different periods. Eg if a player does some activity like gwd for 3 hours a day then after that chops yew logs for 6 hours then logs off, only to login 3-4 hours later and do another meaningless activity for 5 more hours before stopping. Then goes back to gwd. This behavior could be relatively easily linked to a player playing a couple of hours each evening then botting a bit overnight and then restarts the bot the following morning. Its this sort of behavior that jagex should try to link to botting. Though It'd be hard to distinguish this from a legitimate high level committed player aiming for a high spot on the highscores..

Clarity

2014-03-04 07:28:40

From: Flight
Of course, this is nothing new.

This…not sure why this is a revelation for you Spectral :p
While I have no idea what Jagex's processes are, I do think we are far from their priority in the fight against bots. While many people come to SRL to find goldfarming scripts and leech for money/profit, the main drive of the community is very different from the business/greed of the other bot types.

For me personally, I very much love RS as a game, and I respect Jagex a lot. I've played it growing up and would be very disappointed if I was banned because I've truly enjoyed the experience. I am attending the next Runefest even (but obviously I'd never discuss SRL there). I bot because I want to enjoy the game as well as enjoy my social life/succeed in academics. If I had been playing legit all these years my life would be so antisocial and sad…many years ago I declined girls asking me out so I could stay home and play Runescape…what sort of priority was that? I had a passionate hate for botters, because they devalued my achievements, but as soon as I stumbled across them first-hand, my life changed. Sounds cheesy and cliche I know, but botting is just a superior lifestyle choice. Or quitting and spending time playing something else, but I like the game too much for that.

This sort of perspective, while maybe on the extreme side, differs from the other opponents of Jagex who abuse their game in order to make a profit, with little interest in the well-being of the game itself. SRL does this for fun and challenge. Others do it for money.
I suspect Jagex respects this general distinction between SRL and the massive goldfarmers, and as such we have not been much of a priority. I could be wrong, however.

riwu

2014-03-04 07:34:36

The color changes probably have nothing to do with trying to break color bots.
Scripts can be easily updated to work with the new colors…

Wooty

2014-03-04 09:02:09

From: Clarity
This…not sure why this is a revelation for you Spectral :p
While I have no idea what Jagex's processes are, I do think we are far from their priority in the fight against bots. While many people come to SRL to find goldfarming scripts and leech for money/profit, the main drive of the community is very different from the business/greed of the other bot types.

For me personally, I very much love RS as a game, and I respect Jagex a lot. I've played it growing up and would be very disappointed if I was banned because I've truly enjoyed the experience. I am attending the next Runefest even (but obviously I'd never discuss SRL there). I bot because I want to enjoy the game as well as enjoy my social life/succeed in academics. If I had been playing legit all these years my life would be so antisocial and sad…many years ago I declined girls asking me out so I could stay home and play Runescape…what sort of priority was that? I had a passionate hate for botters, because they devalued my achievements, but as soon as I stumbled across them first-hand, my life changed. Sounds cheesy and cliche I know, but botting is just a superior lifestyle choice. Or quitting and spending time playing something else, but I like the game too much for that.

This sort of perspective, while maybe on the extreme side, differs from the other opponents of Jagex who abuse their game in order to make a profit, with little interest in the well-being of the game itself. SRL does this for fun and challenge. Others do it for money.
I suspect Jagex respects this general distinction between SRL and the massive goldfarmers, and as such we have not been much of a priority. I could be wrong, however.


This. I completely agree with you.

If you check the forums of other botting communities you'll find a lot of hate against Jagex and their priority is to make as much money as they can with their goldfarming scripts. Recently they don't even care about bans anymore, they just create new accounts over and over again to make as much money as they can.

Just like you I'm very passionate about this game, but since the lack of time (because of things you already mentioned) I too bot to achieve in-game goals and to be able to enjoy the game as a high-leveled player.

This forum allows me to combine 2 of my hobbies (programming and RS) and discuss them, which I really enjoy and I'm very happy to be part of the SRL community! :)

Hoodz

2014-03-04 11:06:57

Believe me, they do check these forums..

Ashaman88

2014-03-04 11:12:55

They even have a picture of me (green ranger) on their board with undesirable #1 as the caption.

Hoodz

2014-03-04 11:24:48

From: Ashaman88
They even have a picture of me (green ranger) on their board with undesirable #1 as the caption.


Where can i find that xd?

Kevin

2014-03-04 12:19:18

I'd like to imagine they watch us to some extent. Adds a level of challenge to the situation, especially when some of these scripts are so statically defined. I personally like the thought of letting them see my work and despite that, remaining uncaught.
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