SRL Archive - Jr. Member General Help and Discussion

Hey,
So I am putting on the finishing touches to a script that completes the barrows minigame (been some awesome profit honestly!), and I'm interested in sharing it both for feedback and just to give back to everyone here.

Some questions:
1. Should I release junior+ or public? I'd like as much feedback as possible to perfect it but idk I feel like too many leechers would be a bad thing.

2. Right now since it's been private to me, I've tailored it only to my account (high level main with overloads/soulsplit unlocked, drakans medallion/barrows teleport unlocked) and so I'd love suggestions for what things to add support for (different kinds of accounts/setups etc.).

3. The OpenGL glitch really kills this script's runs/hr time, to implement DirectX all I have to do is follow instructions in this first post? http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107256 or do any of the color methods change?

If my coursework goes well (and I solve this one irritating problem…quite a bitch of a thing to script for haha) should release by the end of the week :)

Thanks in advance!
Clarity

Try public first, see how many people are using it. And u get more feedback then.

If you feel like there is just too many of em parasites, move it to jr. :p
Hopefully will get some of those leechers contribute/be more active (No spams posts though, I hope).

All of my scripts have worked perfectly with DirectX (just changing smartplugins). So you should be good.

there are some useful "registered users" around here but imo only jr members+ give useful information.

From: Ashaman88
All of my scripts have worked perfectly with DirectX (just changing smartplugins). So you should be good.

Okay cool, no reason not to add that in then, thanks a lot! I was worried colors might totally change or something haha.

From: hoodz
there are some useful "registered users" around here but imo only jr members+ give useful information.

I'm leaning towards Junior+ initially tbh…although after I've used it for awhile/don't really care anymore I'd probably make it public as a thank you. A ton of people botting barrows would render the script less effective anyway (random players doing things are one of the main reasons the script messes up atm).

And it would reduce the profits made a lot if it was fully public but it could be better for the getting the community involved… Then again it's not like it's hard to get JR member anyhow.

Looking forward to seeing this :)

Any ideas for what to support?

From: Clarity
Any ideas for what to support?

Not exactly up on my RS knowledge tbh, if you had one setup for range/magic/combat I think that would be a great start.
At the end of the day, if people want to bot barrows (which I would say is a really nice gift your sharing) they can at the very least buy a set of gear that suits their skills/this script :D

I say release it as Jr mems + but leave the script as having the higher level requirements, that will act as a buffer to leechers anyways

I remember using slayer dart with about 70 mage and 70 def, when I first tried barrows. Prayed protect against all brothers, used prayer pots and monks/sharks. Brought along bow and arrows for Ahrim (mage brother) and whip for monsters in crypt. I only did 2, maybe 3 crypts per run. For banking without teleport you have to run to burg de rott and if you don't have that bank accessible you have to port to canifis to bank, then use the pub shortcut and run all the way back.

I would say the best way to keep out the leechers would be to make burg de rott the only banking option. If you want to make it more exclusive don't make a walking path to bank, make it so you have to port using medallion. BoD is a quest with quite a few requirements to I wouldnt imagine alot of people would have it done.

That just means less people will be able to use it, leechers/non-leechers alike.

The majority of real leechers lurk about without posting much and as such wouldn't be able to see a barrow script that was in jnr, the leechers who are more dedicated could but I don't think that can be helped
in this situation :D

Mention me in the release thread please ;) I would like to take a look at it.

If you want more feedback then always go public, but due to the nature of this script I'd keep it jr+.

From: Clarity
2. Right now since it's been private to me, I've tailored it only to my account (high level main with overloads/soulsplit unlocked, drakans medallion/barrows teleport unlocked) and so I'd love suggestions for what things to add support for (different kinds of accounts/setups etc.).

I used to legit a lot of Barrows as a mid level player some time ago. These days I occasionally go there for fun. This advice is probably outdated by now, though.

Here are some things that might be useful:

1. Support for different banking methods. Canifis lodestone + Myreque shortcut is much more accessible (requires only mid level stats and a few hours of questing).
2. High combat is somewhat safe to assume, since EoC more or less doubled exp rates. High buyable skills/gear is not. I think a good tradeoff between audience and convenience would be 80+ all combats and level 70 gear with level 80 dungeoneering weapons, with 70 prayer and ignorable herblore.
3. Are you praying or tanking? I'm honestly not sure what stats are required to reliably face-tank the brothers, especially Dharok, these days. (Dharok maxing on you is not nearly as scary as it used to be.)
4. Combat abilities help a lot. Stuns save you a lot of food if tanking. Regenerate saves a lot of food between brothers if you're willing to slow down a little bit (due to the wait and to losing adrenaline).

By the way, not nearly as related, but is there a way I can contact you directly? You seem to have scripted a minigame, something I would have considered extremely challenging. I have a different minigame (Pyramid Plunder) that I'm interested in scripting and I would really appreciate a chance to discuss it with you. Thanks!

I think equipment should be as variable as possible, if you were using colors or slots it shouldn't matter too much anyway?
(User can put custom colours in for custom gear etc^^)

From: Kaladin
I think equipment should be as variable as possible, if you were using colors or slots it shouldn't matter too much anyway?
(User can put custom colours in for custom gear etc^^)

The part that matters is how well a particular setup can fight and what precautions it needs to take in terms of food and prayer to survive reliably. With good enough stats (90+) and gear (Drygores + Torva), you can ignore the combat triangle and use almost no food. With significantly lower stats and gear, you can still get by but you have to switch styles, pray against Dharok, Ahrim, and/or Karil, and eat regularly.

Also adding option to kill Akrisae or not. Would require you to have multiple weapon styles though.
Literally this one part that keeps glitching out and it's infuriating but once I fix it, the script will be good to go on loop for hours haha. :p

From: Ashaman88
All of my scripts have worked perfectly with DirectX (just changing smartplugins). So you should be good.

Your scripts only work with directx when it is installed properly, once you have that done, you are golden. Like me :)

EDIT: Clarity, does your script have deathwalk/death loot procedures so that if I were to die in my expensive rune armor I would be able to pick it up again? And at the moment does it work with all combat methods?

From: Wu-Tang Clan
Clarity, does your script have deathwalk/death loot procedures so that if I were to die in my expensive rune armor I would be able to pick it up again? And at the moment does it work with all combat methods?

Atm I have a checkhealth/checkPrayer procedure running nearly all the time which emergency teleports to your house (safe death if you happen to die after teleporting) when health falls below 30% and there's no food left, but a death walk is definitely a good idea, thanks. Time to kill myself a bunch of times to get those gravestone colors :p

As far as I know technically all combat would be supported since my procedures just attack the brothers (so whatever you are wielding you would use) and go through abilities in a semi-random order (does thresholds if above 50% adrenaline, etc.). The ability bar is set up for you depending on what style you are using.

Not having a minimap during the minigame is causing the most problems at the moment :p Can't use SPS!

Finished the paint and profit calcs so I'll post some preview progress reports in a bit :)

From: Clarity
Finished the paint and profit calcs so I'll post some preview progress reports in a bit :)

That's a nice looking proggy! I can't wait to see the final result of this script, will be a big testimony to what simba is capable of.

Thanks man, looking forward to the release as my thank you to all the scripts I totally took advantage of back in the day…
Edit: Neat, never gotten one of these before, jesus I've been testing this so much.

Sorry for triple post but I feel like this topic basically has just become a dev log so here are some update previews:
Ability bar usage sorted out. Brothers die very quickly now!
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Maze navigation perfected to grab the black around the rooms to determine the actual room layout and door locations, previously I was just using DTMs (lol welfare scripting).
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Todo:
-Support other banking options
-Support Akrisae
-Support dying

Note: DirectX support added. Using DirectX takes away the need for a 6-7 second wait almost every time you move locations. This improves times by a huge amount so you should all get the plugin if you want to use the script.

Akrisae support added.
If anyone else has some ideas or feedback before release I'd really appreciate it!

Very nice. I don't recommend releasing it public, last time there was a barrows script it killed barrows item prices forever and they will never recover because there is no way for them to leave the game. Also more runs = higher chance of it becoming a ban wave area and once that happens the script is pretty much useless. so i would be careful. Goodluck tho

From: Itankbots
Very nice. I don't recommend releasing it public, last time there was a barrows script it killed barrows item prices forever and they will never recover because there is no way for them to leave the game. Also more runs = higher chance of it becoming a ban wave area and once that happens the script is pretty much useless. so i would be careful. Goodluck tho

Yeah I agree. Public release draws a ton of bad attention.
I guess Jagex can technically see this forum if they really tried to but oh well.

The paint looks really nice on this and I'd be happy to test and give feedback to you. I think releasing to everyone first would be a good idea and then just move it upto jr if you don't get useful feedback from any of the normal users.

GL :)
I would not release public just yet

From: Clarity
Hey,
So I am putting on the finishing touches to a script that completes the barrows minigame (been some awesome profit honestly!), and I'm interested in sharing it both for feedback and just to give back to everyone here.

Some questions:
1. Should I release junior+ or public? I'd like as much feedback as possible to perfect it but idk I feel like too many leechers would be a bad thing.

2. Right now since it's been private to me, I've tailored it only to my account (high level main with overloads/soulsplit unlocked, drakans medallion/barrows teleport unlocked) and so I'd love suggestions for what things to add support for (different kinds of accounts/setups etc.).

3. The OpenGL glitch really kills this script's runs/hr time, to implement DirectX all I have to do is follow instructions in this first post? http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107256 or do any of the color methods change?

If my coursework goes well (and I solve this one irritating problem…quite a bitch of a thing to script for haha) should release by the end of the week :)

Thanks in advance!
Clarity

Please release it as SRL+, I don't feel like something that has been so heavily gold farmed in the past should be released as a mere Jr Membs script.

Apply for SRL members with it and release it there. More people willing to give more suggestions there because its a bit more private in SRL members area than it is in Jr. Members.

From: Hazzah
More people willing to give more suggestions there because its a bit more private in SRL members area than it is in Jr. Members.

It is actually the opposite. The higher up you go, the less feedback you get on your scripts because:

1) There are less people in the higher boards.
2) A lot of Members+ have been around a while and don't even play RS anymore, meaning they won't test it.
3) A lot of Members+ don't really care about scripts because they could just write them themselves.

If you want to, you could just release the beta script in public with an auto-updater in it. When you release full version here, the old beta will auto update to a broken version rendering it useless ;)

For everyone still using this thread…http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107814

If I was a member I probably would've initially released Members+ and then opened it up to Juniors after awhile, but I'm not a member. Looking at the usage of my script by others I'd say it hasn't been abused at all. If I released public…however…that opens it up to literally hundreds and doubtless would be abused.

From: Clarity
If I was a member I probably would've initially released Members+ and then opened it up to Juniors after awhile, but I'm not a member. Looking at the usage of my script by others I'd say it hasn't been abused at all. If I released public…however…that opens it up to literally hundreds and doubtless would be abused.

You should apply for members.