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Hey, I was browsing through some scripts and sites and I saw somone claiming that neXus 11 is Aryan(R.I.P.)'s twin. Then somone else said no, ARGA is way better, and about 10 people agreed.

I googled it (:google:) and it said "SCAR RuneScape ARGA". Does that mean that SCAR is also known as ARGA?

-Sorry if this is a really nooby/leecher/idiotic question. I just really dont know the answer.

–Thanks in Advance
-Jet

Arga is a private Java bot. Chances are you won't be able to get a hold of it. I had it once but it lagged like hell. Its probably alot more detectable then SCAR.

I'll try my best to explain as thoroughly as possible.

Only old users of Rs-Resources (www.rs-resources.com) are allowed to receive the new ARGA System X that will be released.

Basically what it is, is that it modifies the RuneScape client with BCEL using injection methods to rename and grab classes. All this info can be obtained within the deobfuscated as well as the obfuscated client.

People note that ARGA and other such bots which use BCEL and injection methods are detectable because they fear the developers would not be able to rid of all the loader traps are embedded within the Runescape client. I believe Macrosoft(the developer team of ARGA) is currently fixing those issues.

As I remember, RS-R boasts 0 publicly banned users by the use of ARGA. Yes, accounts were banned because of script abuse and such; however, the bot itself was undetectable while it was out.

I don't know where I'm getting to with all this explanation, but I'll summarize all that into this:

ARGA is 100% accurate. You can't miss. No color is required. Antirandoms can be solved quickly as in milliseconds with NPC Ids and Interface methods. The strangebox random could be solved in 125 milliseconds I believe. If taken further with mouse movements, autotalking, and camera moving, ARGA and other sisterbots that use BCEL would truly be the "human" bot that everyone would always dream of having. Oh yeah and note that you can run multiple bots on ARGA because it is java based and runs its own client applet.

Just some explanation,
Seungki

Good explanation.

From: Buckleyindahouse
Arga is a private Java bot. Chances are you won't be able to get a hold of it. I had it once but it lagged like hell. Its probably alot more detectable then SCAR.

Wrong soz……they ARGA dev team are working on it atm and it will be public with a lot of good scripts just like we have a lot of good scripts in the free scripts section here. But there will be a few awesome scripts for a few people only…….this will most likely screw Jagex over even more when it's released lol

Wow, I guess I must of gotten the beta version or something. Can't wait for that.

ya rofl it got leeked :P but that was a crappy version

nar it wasnt leaked lol. well it sorta was. its not a private bot, its a public bot, you just need to be active on RS-R to get into the usergroup to use it. The versions that used to be released were very early alpha and had many bugs. Still, it was waaaay faster and more efficient than SCAR. :p

atm MacroSoft (Taios, Iamadam, Zappacky and another guy) have stopped updating it while they are working on a more stable version called System X. Screenshots have been posted there and it looks awesome.

Buckley, the lag you had would have been caused by a random being continually called, we all had that problem, and we all found that deleting the randoms folder then getting the default randoms again worked fine.

yeh im MM and Senior Member over there. :p

Well, ARGA is more detectable than SRL/SCAR and iBot also it won't live nearly as long as SRL/SCAR and iBot.

Also, it's much harder to script in iBot/ ARGA making the communities for them vulnerable to unstableness…

Another thing, I think bots that are too power full like ARGA are abused by the cheating community, iBot has avoided this problem by making it pay where but that also brings up more problems, this is also why SCAR's silent mouse hasn't been fixed I believe, because it would be abused by the cheating community.

Personally I favor SCAR since it reduces leeching/ easier to script & learn/ un-abusable / almost fair for honest players in RS, but I don't really mind iBot ATM.

I hate RSDemon right now though… ARGA is starting to get on my nerves a little but I don't really care.

I'm a fan of Aryan, SCAR, AutoRune, Visual basic macroing, & iBot; I'll keep it at that.

I'll still stand with this, Auto-Rune was the best Rs cheating-where ever made.
And SCAR is truly Shite Compared-to Auto Rune.

-Ice.

May I correct everyone that ARGA is PRIVATE.

People's idea of "a certain group only gets it" that's what private is defined as.

Also, being active on rs-r will not give you access to the "old users" group. Lol.

You must show that you understand java and its basic fundamentals to script for ARGA when it is released.

From: Icefire908
Well, ARGA is more detectable than SRL/SCAR and iBot also it won't live nearly as long as SRL/SCAR and iBot.

Also, it's much harder to script in iBot/ ARGA making the communities for them vulnerable to unstableness…

Another thing, I think bots that are too power full like ARGA are abused by the cheating community, iBot has avoided this problem by making it pay where but that also brings up more problems, this is also why SCAR's silent mouse hasn't been fixed I believe, because it would be abused by the cheating community.

Personally I favor SCAR since it reduces leeching/ easier to script & learn/ un-abusable / almost fair for honest players in RS, but I don't really mind iBot ATM.

I hate RSDemon right now though… ARGA is starting to get on my nerves a little but I don't really care.

-Ice.

"I hate RSDemon right now though… ARGA is starting to get on my nerves a little but I don't really care."

- ARGA isnt even out atm how can it get on your nerves lol?

"Well, ARGA is more detectable than SRL/SCAR and iBot also it won't live nearly as long as SRL/SCAR and iBot." - Generally ya. But i think SCAR would be more undetectable then ibot. Since scar plays from the rs site. But thats my opinion :).

"Also, it's much harder to script in iBot/ ARGA making the communities for them vulnerable to unstableness…"
- What has scripting being hard got to do with community vulnerability? Also, SCAR easy then ibot and arga i think is opinionated. Its different for different people. I found scar kinda hard but thats likely because i am so used to java. Also if arga is harder, it means more members have to use their brains so more learn. ARGA is open source might i add, so more will further learn :).

"Another thing, I think bots that are too power full like ARGA are abused by the cheating community" - That is very true. However even if we made it pay, people would abuse it. If we sold auths 10-20$ a month. We would make A LOT, and since it is the only public bot of its kind, it would be an attraction. We will also when it comes out have the ability to solve the maze random and all other randoms.

So instead of making it pay. We make it private to a maximum of 200 members thus reducing significantly abuse :). People could really run a max of 10 accounts, so 200 * 10 = 2k autoers. Theres 100 worlds. So thats 20 autoers approximately on each world. (though more free ones would be taken up, this is theoretical). There are many places to auto, mines, flax pits, varrock, rimmington, alkahid, cows, fish, karamja. SO yo would barely notice them if at all.

"Personally I favor SCAR since it reduces leeching/ easier to script & learn/ un-abusable / almost fair for honest players in RS" - Yea, scar is very good for this :). There arn't many leechers either i think.

For arga though we are trying to remove leechers kinda. We will have a newer system to allow people to obtain it. ie having a certain amount of rep, posts and then being able to apply :). One doesn't have to be a smart ass, but if they are generally helpful, nice polite, good grammer, they have a good chance :).

"ya rofl it got leeked :P but that was a crappy version" - How true loool.

well iv never used Arga, but from looking at the script sources, it seems easier than Scar to me, theres thing like the ID of stuff, but i dont know how you get those IDs, propably some compilicated way which no-one told me.

From: Yakman
well iv never used Arga, but from looking at the script sources, it seems easier than Scar to me, theres thing like the ID of stuff, but i dont know how you get those IDs, propably some compilicated way which no-one told me.

I'll explain. You have a deobfuscated client of RuneScape(currently 458 or 459, haven't tested lately). You also have an obfuscated client. You use both of them to check patterns of such. Patterns? Like the classes/fields of the jar. Each class/field holds a certain data, such as Item, NPC, etc. MS is getting the interface ids as well, so interfaces will be easy to solve. By modifying the client, the bot (as I'd say ARGA/pivot/revoli/m0nst3r) will have access to simple ID's to find the class/field that holds the value, and act accordingly.

Also to the people who say scripting for ARGA/IBot/etc is hard….uhm. I think java is easy, but scripting for SCAR is hard. Tis' why I'm trying to learn a lil while a lot of stuff is down. Same concept lol. Need I say more? :(h):

ARGA will never be made public.

It's only logical…

wow so many posts… ty i see what it is now… i want ARGA lol.

From: Yakman
well iv never used Arga, but from looking at the script sources, it seems easier than Scar to me, theres thing like the ID of stuff, but i dont know how you get those IDs, propably some compilicated way which no-one told me.

Meh, in the old one you had scripts print out the ID's. Was rather annoying.

you can look um up in a table somewhere on rs-r

From: Yakman
well iv never used Arga, but from looking at the script sources, it seems easier than Scar to me, theres thing like the ID of stuff, but i dont know how you get those IDs, propably some compilicated way which no-one told me.

O man. Only just realised you pm'd me. You pm'd me a good while bac though. Uh rsr regs are open :). However the arga group is closed. WHen we move to VBulletin, ill add you into it =).

From: Taios
"I hate RSDemon right now though… ARGA is starting to get on my nerves a little but I don't really care."

- ARGA isnt even out atm how can it get on your nerves lol?

"Well, ARGA is more detectable than SRL/SCAR and iBot also it won't live nearly as long as SRL/SCAR and iBot." - Generally ya. But i think SCAR would be more undetectable then ibot. Since scar plays from the rs site. But thats my opinion :).

"Also, it's much harder to script in iBot/ ARGA making the communities for them vulnerable to unstableness…"

- What has scripting being hard got to do with community vulnerability? Also, SCAR easy then ibot and arga i think is opinionated. Its different for different people. I found scar kinda hard but thats likely because i am so used to java. Also if arga is harder, it means more members have to use their brains so more learn. ARGA is open source might i add, so more will further learn :).

"Another thing, I think bots that are too power full like ARGA are abused by the cheating community" - That is very true. However even if we made it pay, people would abuse it. If we sold auths 10-20$ a month. We would make A LOT, and since it is the only public bot of its kind, it would be an attraction. We will also when it comes out have the ability to solve the maze random and all other randoms.

So instead of making it pay. We make it private to a maximum of 200 members thus reducing significantly abuse :). People could really run a max of 10 accounts, so 200 * 10 = 2k autoers. Theres 100 worlds. So thats 20 autoers approximately on each world. (though more free ones would be taken up, this is theoretical). There are many places to auto, mines, flax pits, varrock, rimmington, alkahid, cows, fish, karamja. SO yo would barely notice them if at all.

"Personally I favor SCAR since it reduces leeching/ easier to script & learn/ un-abusable / almost fair for honest players in RS" - Yea, scar is very good for this :). There arn't many leechers either i think.

For arga though we are trying to remove leechers kinda. We will have a newer system to allow people to obtain it. ie having a certain amount of rep, posts and then being able to apply :). One doesn't have to be a smart ass, but if they are generally helpful, nice polite, good grammer, they have a good chance :).

"ya rofl it got leeked :P but that was a crappy version" - How true loool.

I still have to say everything has it's advantages and dis-advantages but…

You have amazing convincing powers Taios, I've changed my mind about ARGA but I still hate RS-Demon, Lol…

I wish you the best of luck in keeping people from abusing ARGA in the future:D

Edit:
I'm a fan of Aryan, SCAR, AutoRune, Visual basic macroing, iBot, & now ARGA ;)

Lol : "I'll still stand with this, Auto-Rune was the best Rs cheating-where ever made." - Me

Taois is RS-R registration closed right now? Cuz I registered and it never sent me a registration email.

regs are open(no need to apply) but you won't be able to access arga…

so private or not?

and does it stand for anything or does the name mean anything?

Don't care about ARGA (yet), just wanna see what the RS-R forums are. Joshie are you a mod there or something? Can you send me the reg email again? I tried it twice and haven't gotten it :(

From: lolpie
Don't care about ARGA (yet), just wanna see what the RS-R forums are. Joshie are you a mod there or something? Can you send me the reg email again? I tried it twice and haven't gotten it :(

rofl, i'm banned from there… you don't need a REG e-mail.

and for that tard up there, yes if you read one page you would see it WAS private.

A Runescape Gaming Assistant

Gaming Assistant, LOL. It plays the game for you, not assists you :P

From: Icefire908
I still have to say everything has it's advantages and dis-advantages but…

You have amazing convincing powers Taios, I've changed my mind about ARGA but I still hate RS-Demon, Lol…

I wish you the best of luck in keeping people from abusing ARGA in the future:D

Edit:
I'm a fan of Aryan, SCAR, AutoRune, Visual basic macroing, iBot, & now ARGA ;)

Lol : "I'll still stand with this, Auto-Rune was the best Rs cheating-where ever made." - Me

"Lol : "I'll still stand with this, Auto-Rune was the best Rs cheating-where ever made." - Me"

- It will be a long time if ever a time that someone will be able to create a public bot to argue with that :p.

"regs are open(no need to apply) but you won't be able to access arga…" - Joshie is correct.

"Gaming Assistant, LOL. It plays the game for you, not assists you :P" - Newer system might argue with that :p. Not good for mains, but auto'd pkers, yes.

From: Taios
"Lol : "I'll still stand with this, Auto-Rune was the best Rs cheating-where ever made." - Me"

- It will be a long time if ever a time that someone will be able to create a public bot to argue with that :p.

"regs are open(no need to apply) but you won't be able to access arga…" - Joshie is correct.

"Gaming Assistant, LOL. It plays the game for you, not assists you :P" - Newer system might argue with that :p. Not good for mains, but auto'd pkers, yes.

rofl, auto pkers~ thats gonna be sick… ill just blitz then dds them hahha.:p


EDIT: i'm always right, thanks…=p

It stands for Advanced RuneScape Gaming Assistant - ARGA
I call it, Aliens Raped Greeny´s Ass - ARGA
XD