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Not seen anything directly on the involvement of RS3 and Simba yet, so.

Will SMART be able to be modified to cope with RS3?
Has there already been any work on the RS3 beta to give a better look into RS3 scripting?

Answers to questions like this would be appreciated. Thanks

SMART can't be modified to load HTML5 client. It would have to be totally rewritten I think. So don't expect to see a minimizeable client anytime soon.

From: weequ
SMART can't be modified to load HTML5 client. It would have to be totally rewritten I think. So don't expect to see a minimizeable client anytime soon.

Actually we are in luck, they have confirmed there will be a java client, it will be the same as html5 (all new interfaces and stuff) but without the html5 graphics. :)

From: Ollybest
Actually we are in luck, they have confirmed there will be a java client, it will be the same as html5 (all new interfaces and stuff) but without the html5 graphics. :)

Yeah I know about that. Just didn't realize his question wasn't just about the html5 thing. Sorry about that.

From: Ollybest
Actually we are in luck, they have confirmed there will be a java client, it will be the same as html5 (all new interfaces and stuff) but without the html5 graphics. :)

Yeah they said this from the start as HTML5 requires much greater PC specs, and they didn't want to loose any users. However all the colours will most likely be changed making all the includes and current scripts rendered broken. :/

From: Millenium
Yeah they said this from the start as HTML5 requires much greater PC specs, and they didn't want to loose any users. However all the colours will most likely be changed making all the includes and current scripts rendered broken. :/

I dunno for sure if ALL colors will change, but interfaces will definitely change. It's a guarantee that all banking related activities will break, and likely inventory as well.

If things break, people will fix them. It's happened every other major update and it'll happen again.

People have been telling me that we will wait for SRL-6. Which will handle the new interface…But the only people who can develop/Submit that will take months to finish it. So that is not a logical thing to do.

We need something in the mean time And i mean, I can modify the include to work with rs3 fairly easily, problem is, it would be totally personalized. you would have to use the same EXACT setup as me…Which obviously wouldn't work for public version…Trying to figure out how to standardize it per say.

Only thing that will be majorly broken is Banking and interface stuff (inv/gearing). Along with familiar and hitpoint/prayer control… So really alot of things..Lol

SafeMode/OpenGL/Directx Is still there in the java version. So smart should load fine. Colours are the same in Java version, ive checked (as of latest beta). They change in the HTML5 But we wont be using that anyways. So doesn't matter.

Here is a screenie of the interface in Fixed mode and Most "basic" interface settings. (remember, you can move the interfaces around and put them anywhere…which will cause a problem, we need to declare a basic "standard" setup to use for SRL/Simba)




We will probably need to setup a thread that lists everything Broken once rs3 comes. and who all will be working on it…I know alot (if not most) of the scripters have moved to 07 rs…So…If you're interested in working on the rs3 include as soon as it comes out. Post below and we can take a look at what all we need to do

I think what we should do as far as the moveable interfaces go is to make a function/procedure to move the interfaces into the correct spot if they're not there. So do some GetColor things to check if they're in the right spot, and if they're not then use bitmaps/DTMs to find them and then move them to the right spot. So the script would just call something like

  MakeInterfaceStandard;

after the login.

From: BMWxi
I think what we should do as far as the moveable interfaces go is to make a function/procedure to move the interfaces into the correct spot if they're not there. So do some GetColor things to check if they're in the right spot, and if they're not then use bitmaps/DTMs to find them and then move them to the right spot. So the script would just call something like

  MakeInterfaceStandard;

after the login.

Mmm Yea. I guess we will just have to approach the changes the same way we do all other changes…Its just…so much more is breaking D:
Hopefully a decent amount of people will want to help so we can get atleast a working version in a week or so :s

From: Itankbots
Mmm Yea. I guess we will just have to approach the changes the same way we do all other changes…Its just…so much more is breaking D:
Hopefully a decent amount of people will want to help so we can get atleast a working version in a week or so :s

Yeah EOC is nothing compared to this. I wasn't around for rs1 but I think the RS1 -> RS2 change would have been similar to this interface wise.

From: BMWxi
Yeah EOC is nothing compared to this. I wasn't around for rs1 but I think the RS1 -> RS2 change would have been similar to this interface wise.

Yeah..This is the first Include change i will be helping with…Im not an amazing coder..but the amount of work that needs to be done is enormous. and I rely on Simba for all my Botting stuff..so i want it back online ASAP. My work might not be the prettiest…but it will work, and untill someone else comes by and does better, it will have to do :P

List of things we will need to re-do:

- All Hitpoint/Prayer/Summoning point functions
- All Inventory management
- All Gear managment
- Combat tab/Spell usage
- WHole chat system/friendlist/ clan chat etc.

Thats all the big things i can think of right now…

Only things that are staying the same is the rough layout and ability bar and minimap…Lol. So yay sps will work! everything else wont… >.>

Does this mean that eoc will be removed and replaced with rs3? Will both be available and you have the option to stay with eoc or swicth over?

From: I God
Does this mean that eoc will be removed and replaced with rs3? Will both be available and you have the option to stay with eoc or switch over?

EOC is getting moved into rs3, basically they are the same thing. Its just that SO MUCH is getting updated, so many changes, that jagex decided it times to name this "runescape 3" Since there will be so many things different. Same as when they moved from rs classic to the current version.

ok thanks for clearing that up.

I understand there will still be a java version of rs3, will SMART be able to load rs3 right after the release of rs3 or will some things need to be changed in the SMART loader first?

Simba and scar has survived many graphical changes over the years, it will be ok

Just a bit of paranoia, but do you think they will give more scrutiny to folks using a java interface? Trying to locate bots based on technology usage?

From: Ashaman88
Simba and scar has survived many graphical changes over the years, it will be ok

Oh, i know it will be ok, Im just trying to spread the word, get everyone prepared for it ya know? See who is active enough to help it and start thinking about what is the biggest priority.

It will be by far the biggest update Simba has faced in years, Im just wanting to get a head start on it. I feel like its finally my time to step up and help a little around here…Everyone has always been so helpful to me, i wanna give some back, even if my methods aren't the best. I have All the free time in the world due to my health, so i wanna try to get a working include asap.

From: loragnor
Just a bit of paranoia, but do you think they will give more scrutiny to folks using a java interface? Trying to locate bots based on technology usage?

No I don't believe so, as HTML5 will only work for Google Chrome and no other browsers yet, and ALOT of people don't use chrome, so that would be pretty biased.

Maybe slightly off-topic but will the wealth and skills transfer over to rs3

From: I God
Maybe slightly off-topic but will the wealth and skills transfer over to rs3

Yes. For any further questions like that, you can check here:

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/runescape-3-arrives-july-22nd-2013

or the FAQ here: http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/RuneScape_3

Yes it will still work with Java(they wont remove it).
I asked to same question some time ago actually :D

Well.. Colour works in all modes as well as hooks and stuff. Can also play in resizeable and just get rid of the stupid annoying navbar offsets in the include.


:l whole new OpenGL code/engine and yet everything still works.. Didn't have to touch the plugin at all :l


Another thing is that if you can create a webview control, you can actually load the HTML5 client into your webview control and grab colours that way as well.. Not only that, but since the HTML5 WebGL uses your graphics card, you can purposely hook your own client and intercept that way. Well at least I think you can. I haven't actually made a browser yet. Would be cool to mess with the HTML5 client though.


However, Smart still loads just fine without any modifications.

Is there any word on how long we have until the switch to RS3 happens?

From: BMWxi
Is there any word on how long we have until the switch to RS3 happens?

From: Brandon

Haha thank you for that, I haven't been to the homepage in a while ;)

From: Kevin
I dunno for sure if ALL colors will change, but interfaces will definitely change. It's a guarantee that all banking related activities will break, and likely inventory as well.

Not that bad seen as uptext is already pretty much broken (or at least I have problems with it)

From: Ashaman88
Simba and scar has survived many graphical changes over the years, it will be ok

I understand it will be ok, but the time frame in which it will be ok is still a complete mystery. To a more experienced coder and someone with full knowledge of Pascal I think something like this could take a week to completely fix but non of the SRL devs get paid (as far as I know) so it is completely up to their dedication.

oohh Thank you brandon for looking at that…Doesn't seem as bad as i thought..Hmm..Only big change is the interfaces then :D

From: Brandon
Well.. Colour works in all modes as well as hooks and stuff. Can also play in resizeable and just get rid of the stupid annoying navbar offsets in the include.


:l whole new OpenGL code/engine and yet everything still works.. Didn't have to touch the plugin at all :l


Another thing is that if you can create a webview control, you can actually load the HTML5 client into your webview control and grab colours that way as well.. Not only that, but since the HTML5 WebGL uses your graphics card, you can purposely hook your own client and intercept that way. Well at least I think you can. I haven't actually made a browser yet. Would be cool to mess with the HTML5 client though.


However, Smart still loads just fine without any modifications.

Brandon saving the day as always :D, good to hear it.

Im having problems getting my SMART to pair and work at all. Im assuming its the RS3 doing since Ive never had this problem before now. Anyone have any idea of when things will be updated for RS3?

From: photodumb
Im having problems getting my SMART to pair and work at all. Im assuming its the RS3 doing since Ive never had this problem before now. Anyone have any idea of when things will be updated for RS3?

Probably by the end of summer. Source: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104905

From: photodumb
Im having problems getting my SMART to pair and work at all. Im assuming its the RS3 doing since Ive never had this problem before now. Anyone have any idea of when things will be updated for RS3?

From: BMWxi
Probably by the end of summer. Source: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104905

As above, but there are/will be more unofficial fixes to keep us going until the release of SRL6.

Check out this guide on getting it to run in SMART if you haven't already: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104919

From: Rich
As above, but there are/will be more unofficial fixes to keep us going until the release of SRL6.

Check out this guide on getting it to run in SMART if you haven't already: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104919

This is exactly what I have been trying to find thank you