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A SRL RS Private Server

For Script testing/development ???

Sure its probably been thought of before but …. We Dont Have one Right??


If anyones up for it or got any ideas let me know … i own a server could probably have one up and running in say 20 mins .. altho it would take some work setting it up afterwards


so what do people think ….??

Shhh… That's a mem+ only thing… ;)

(above was a joke :p) While that's an interesting idea, it would take ridiculous amounts of effort (nigh impossible with the amount of capable and available people we have) to have one that is kept up to date with the actual Runescape servers. Getting access to their server code isn't a simple copy paste procedure and instead takes large amounts of dedicated time - for each any every patch if we wanted to stay up to date for scripting/test development.

Thats an excellent idea.

Good idea!

Maybe add one for OSRS too ?
Though i doubt there is any server files for Old School yet, but i can check.

Found "Something" like it.
http://www.rune-server.org/runescape-development/rs2-client/downloads/494375-final-client-release-fullscreen-resizable-602-anims-gfx.html

Won't happen. We can't give Jagex a reason to take us down, you could call it the unofficial SRL server, but you would have to claim to have no affiliation with the SRL/Villavu website.

Yeh true but then it dont have to be anything to do with srl .. but then its not my fault if only we know about it .. lack of advertisment

Thats a very good idea and if some people are willing to make it happen why not

From: Sin
Won't happen. We can't give Jagex a reason to take us down, you could call it the unofficial SRL server, but you would have to claim to have no affiliation with the SRL/Villavu website.

Set me as owner, doubt they will go after an underage teen in Norway.

From: double codes
Set me as owner, doubt they will go after an underage teen in Norway.

Sure if you want to host and pay for a server :P

From: Sin
Sure if you want to host and pay for a server :P

No need to pay for it, i can host it myself.
But only over a VPN(Like Hamachi) which shouldn't be a problem since there isn't going to be a "Public" server.
+ Got some experience with RS-P servers ;)

From: double codes
No need to pay for it, i can host it myself.
But only over a VPN(Like Hamachi) which shouldn't be a problem since there isn't going to be a "Public" server.
+ Got some experience with RS-P servers ;)

Go for it mate, hmu if you need help.

From: Sin
Go for it mate, hmu if you need help.

I need the up-to-date server files or else there isn't any point.

Haxors needed!

From: double codes
I need the up-to-date server files or else there isn't any point.

Haxors needed!

Haxors illegal.

Oh thought you were talking about 07..

From: double codes
No need to pay for it, i can host it myself.
But only over a VPN(Like Hamachi) which shouldn't be a problem since there isn't going to be a "Public" server.
+ Got some experience with RS-P servers ;)

Hamachi is TERRIBLE. Laggy, unsafe, and annoying to use, outdated, and most base sources don't work with it anyway.

If it's going to be hosted it shouldn't be laggy -.-

… I Have A Server .. 2gb ram half deciant processor somting like 3tb bandwidth and half a dozen extra ipv6 ips ( not sure they'll help tho)


i dont realy use it so … sure i could setup a few accounts

From: sm0k3
… I Have A Server .. 1gb ram half deciant processor somting like 3tb bandwidth and half a dozen extra ipv6 ips ( not sure they'll help tho)


i dont realy use it so … sure i could setup a few accounts

1GB of RAM? You can try I'm no expect on that type of stuff, I just know then it comes to Hamachi it's the worst

edit lol typo should be 2gb of ram … i dunno realy could do with some people with some knowlage of java lol . ican get it running but im not the best person to manage it altho ill learn :)

Thats not anywhere near enough .-.

yeh i know was worth a try tho but seriously what would we need for this

If it's unofficial. And I could only see this being useful for perfecting scripts & random-solvers in OSRS. If you're looking for servers I'd say the popular #377 is your best bet for making an oldschool clone, for this purpose. You might try one of these:
Apollo
Rune Strand

From: Sin
Oh thought you were talking about 07..

I am.

From: Officer Barbrady
Hamachi is TERRIBLE. Laggy, unsafe, and annoying to use, outdated, and most base sources don't work with it anyway.

If it's going to be hosted it shouldn't be laggy -.-

Every point you made is false.

"Laggy" The only time Hamachi is "Laggy" is when:
A) The cumputer that is hosting the Hamachi server has a poor connection or computer.
B) The Hamachi Logon-servers are running poorly.
C) You live too far apart from the host that a stable ping is close to impossible.

"Annoying" The Hamachi client itself are one of the cleanest and simplest i've ever come across over.

"Outdated" Hamachi haven't been updated in a few months but do it need to ? Every function you can think about is in the client.
"and most base sources don't work with it anyway" No, all of the sources work with Hamachi.
However most of the sources already have and IP to connect to by default, but are able to change that IP.

Let's summarize:
Hamachi is in fact a fast piece of software when used right.
Hamachi isn't annoying at all.
Hamachi does have everything you need therefore not outdated.

From: Officer Barbrady
1GB of RAM? You can try I'm no expect on that type of stuff, I just know then it comes to Hamachi it's the worst

1 GB RAM(2 GB RAM like he updated) and a decent connection is more than enough to host a RuneScape Private server for 10 + connections.

You have to rewrite all the serverside code, unless people here can grab it from their servers some magical way..

most games like that, SA-MP is the best example.. you have to 100% strip out all AI and rewrite it.

From: sm0k3
… I Have A Server .. 2gb ram half deciant processor somting like 3tb bandwidth and half a dozen extra ipv6 ips ( not sure they'll help tho)


i dont realy use it so … sure i could setup a few accounts

Do you have 3 Terabit or 3 TeraByte bandwidth?

From: double codes
Every point you made is false.

"Laggy" The only time Hamachi is "Laggy" is when:
A) The cumputer that is hosting the Hamachi server has a poor connection or computer.
B) The Hamachi Logon-servers are running poorly.
C) You live too far apart from the host that a stable ping is close to impossible.

"Annoying" The Hamachi client itself are one of the cleanest and simplest i've ever come across over.

"Outdated" Hamachi haven't been updated in a few months but do it need to ? Every function you can think about is in the client.
"and most base sources don't work with it anyway" No, all of the sources work with Hamachi.
However most of the sources already have and IP to connect to by default, but are able to change that IP.

Let's summarize:
Hamachi is in fact a fast piece of software when used right.
Hamachi isn't annoying at all.
Hamachi does have everything you need therefore not outdated.

Have you EVER used hamachi with a RSPS? It's HORRID. Compare using hamachi to host to actually hosting it. It's a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1721436

I had something like this back when the SRL-OSR started off

From: grats
You have to rewrite all the serverside code, unless people here can grab it from their servers some magical way..

most games like that, SA-MP is the best example.. you have to 100% strip out all AI and rewrite it.

OMFG you're right -.-


NOTE: If we want this private server to help bypassing BotWatch or solve randoms we need the server files from JageX directly every time they do an update.

That's the biggest and in the end, only real problem of doing things like this.. I host legal games for anyone, no problem.. but getting the code would be, in the end, worthless compared to just testing scripts on the real game

Holy crap Justin, host it!

From: Officer Barbrady
Have you EVER used hamachi with a RSPS? It's HORRID. Compare using hamachi to host to actually hosting it. It's a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1721436

Yes i have and the connection was stable at around 50-200 can give you an exact number since i didn't feel like getting the PING time.
In other words it was just as smooth as the regular servers.

"No one runs a Hamachi server. The Hamachi network is run by the same company that owns Logmein.com. You can create your private network and be the admin on that but that is simply limited to banning people etc."
-PiCaRd359 @ http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1721436

From: Sin
Holy crap Justin, host it!

I might look into it since I do have a idle 8gb windows server :P

From: double codes
Yes i have and the connection was stable at around 50-200 can give you an exact number since i didn't feel like getting the PING time.
In other words it was just as smooth as the regular servers.

"No one runs a Hamachi server. The Hamachi network is run by the same company that owns Logmein.com. You can create your private network and be the admin on that but that is simply limited to banning people etc."
-PiCaRd359 @ http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1721436

"If your friend has a virus than it spreading to your machine is even easier since hamachi has bypassed any router firewalls that you may have. A software firewall may protect you but if your attempting to play games which require hamachi to work it is generally because your attempting to support a legacy app which uses something like IPX/SPX or so many ports that your firewall would look like Swiss cheese anyway and be virtually ineffective."

It's still much more easy to run normally, nobody in the RSPS hosting scene using Hamachi anyway (unless they have a dynamic IP…even then usually get a vps)

From: grats
That's the biggest and in the end, only real problem of doing things like this.. I host legal games for anyone, no problem.. but getting the code would be, in the end, worthless compared to just testing scripts on the real game

Well i guess if we have the same map files as JageX does we can help the development of bots that use maps like woodcutting,Fighter and so on.

From: Justin
I might look into it since I do have a idle 8gb windows server :P

Do a vote first so we know if people are interested ;)

From: Justin
I might look into it since I do have a idle 8gb windows server :P

if you can't, I would.. if it would be active

can you do a donation thing too legally under jagex law? cuz I'd just get a dedicated server here in my server room, for it

From: Officer Barbrady
"If your friend has a virus than it spreading to your machine is even easier since hamachi has bypassed any router firewalls that you may have. A software firewall may protect you but if your attempting to play games which require hamachi to work it is generally because your attempting to support a legacy app which uses something like IPX/SPX or so many ports that your firewall would look like Swiss cheese anyway and be virtually ineffective."

It's still much more easy to run normally, nobody in the RSPS hosting scene using Hamachi anyway (unless they have a dynamic IP…even then usually get a vps)

Easier,no.
However it's possible if the virus it self is programmed some way to recognize if hamachi is running and then add a new network to hamachi and then connecting and start sending data.
Security risk = Close to none.

From: grats
if you can't, I would.. if it would be active

can you do a donation thing too legally under jagex law? cuz I'd just get a dedicated server here in my server room, for it

I don't think you can accept donations for hosting a RSPS, I've seen other servers get shutdown for doing so.
I think it's also where the cache is located as it is copyrighted

From: Justin
I don't think you can accept donations for hosting a RSPS, I've seen other servers get shutdown for doing so.
I think it's also where the cache is located as it is copyrighted

damn I thought it was you can just not ask for payment

From: grats
if you can't, I would.. if it would be active

can you do a donation thing too legally under jagex law? cuz I'd just get a dedicated server here in my server room, for it

"Donation" means giving someone your stuff for free for no particular reason other than to give something he or a group.

No you can't.

However if you have donation up and sell something if the donate it's no longer a donation it's a sale. which JageX will come after you.

From: double codes
"Donation" means giving someone your stuff for free for no particular reason other than to give something he or a group.

No you can't.

However if you have donation up and sell something if the donate it's no longer a donation it's a sale. which JageX will come after you.

I wouldn't be selling anything at all..

From: grats
I wouldn't be selling anything at all..

Then you're good to go.
And if you want to be on the safe side:
Post this by the donation link "Donations are donations only and have no affiliate with anything else." or something like that.

Now the only problem that remains is getting the Cache Un-Copyrighted : P.
Don't worry JageX wouldn't try to take down a small Private server community if we don't go public.

well sound like this could be worth it .. if we can get some reciant

Cache files…

Sound Like an Innovative Idea If You Ask me, All In Favor Say I!!

There's really no need to worry about legal issues here. There's hundreds of public RSPSs out there, many of which charge money to play and they don't receive any attention from Jagex. As a matter of fact, Sythe has it's own private server now. Just keep it unofficial to Villavu.

That looks really nice Justin; is it around the 377 area? The ground textures and such look 317 but the interface looks at least 369, which is what we see in OSRS. I recommend making a few commands that randomly display a random event interface, like the box and what not. That'd be great to design random-solvers.

From: double codes
Do you have 3 Terabit or 3 TeraByte bandwidth?

Yep .. Server Stats Here :
[ATTACH=CONFIG]21785[/ATTACH]

From: sm0k3
Yep .. Server Stats Here :
[ATTACH=CONFIG]21785[/ATTACH]

Alright, what's the DL and UL ?

What about SCARScape?

What happened to it?

From: NKN
What about SCARScape?

What happened to it?

ScarScape wasn't a private server, it was a client designed specifically for people using SCAR while botting in Runescape. It kept your camera at perfect north and colors did not shift over time / map changes.

From: Flight
ScarScape wasn't a private server, it was a client designed specifically for people using SCAR while botting in Runescape. It kept your camera at perfect north and colors did not shift over time / map changes.

oh disregard then

From: Flight
ScarScape wasn't a private server, it was a client designed specifically for people using SCAR while botting in Runescape. It kept your camera at perfect north and colors did not shift over time / map changes.

How did that work?

From: Officer Barbrady
How did that work?

I'm really not sure how they did it as I'm not that familiar with the RS client. Also, apparently someone recently(ish) did it again and relased a "SimbaScape" client, but the origins of it are iffy, so I wouldn't recommend downloading / using that.