SRL Archive - SRL Site Discussion

Hey guys,

This is just a general thread to gauge community opinion on the forum and the way things are currently set up. So, if you have any gripes with the way things are (e.g. the forum-layout), please let us know and a way to improve it and we shall take it under consideration :)

All users, regardless of rank, are welcome and encouraged to submit opinions/rants on the site.

Please keep feedback mature and intelligible.

Please NOTE: This is purely for the website and not for Simba/SRL-related development.

Regards,
~ The SRL Staff.

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100637
^ Hobbit was supposed to come back to this when he had the time but honestly I haven't seen him online once since then. I hope everything's ok…

I see that's in the Members section so I'll quote myself here for the sake of < SRL Members:

From: Flight
Heya, there's a few changes I'd like to see to certain ranks & forums. Please give me some input on what you agree with or don't agree with, or if you've anything you'd also like to see change do post here and I'll add it to this list.

Keep in mind, these are only my opinions, they are not concert, they're just what I believe would be practical changes.

Forum suggestions section
-Someone had suggested this not too long ago. I believe it was suggested by just a registered user, thus it didn't get so much attention. I personally think it'd be nice to have a place where users can share suggestions on changes they'd like to see on the forums, or atleast Members / Jr Members and above if it calls for it.

Public Scripts & OSR Scripts moderators
-Those selected to moderate and maintain the public scripts section should absolutely have the same power in the Old School Scripts section. There's really a need there for active moderation yet as far as I can see only Super Moderators & Administrators can maintain this section at this time. I suggest all current moderators of the Public Scripts section as well as SRL Developers have the ability to moderate this section in addition to the Public Scripts section. In addition, perhaps also the team appointed to maintaining the SRL-OSR library.

Categories for OSR Scripts section
-This speaks for itself. There's quite a few scripts stacking up in the newly added Old School Scripts section and honestly there needs to be origination here. It's obvious OSR will draw a lot of attention and, I assume, will constantly draw in more scripts. It will only grow from here on out, so before it really gets crowded in there with random scripts scattered around let's make categories exactly like what we have in the Public Scripts section.

Additional sections in OSR
-I suggest a Research & Development section for OSR

Small tweak to the Help and Tutorials section
-Because tutorials may be made but differ between RS2 and OSR I suggest an optional tag to be added to the top of a thread title, choosing between "(none)", "[RS2]", "[All]" and "[OSR]". It's not really high priority but it would clarify between various tutorials posted.

OSR Scripts added to the Quick Links
-That section receives a lot traffic, let's make it easily accessible just as the Public Scripts section is.


I had more but that's all I can think of for the time being. If I remember any more or if others have suggestions I'll add them here.

From: Flight
Forum suggestions section
-Someone had suggested this not too long ago. I believe it was suggested by just a registered user, thus it didn't get so much attention. I personally think it'd be nice to have a place where users can share suggestions on changes they'd like to see on the forums, or atleast Members / Jr Members and above if it calls for it.

That's what this thread is for :)

From: Flight
Public Scripts & OSR Scripts moderators
-Those selected to moderate and maintain the public scripts section should absolutely have the same power in the Old School Scripts section. There's really a need there for active moderation yet as far as I can see only Super Moderators & Administrators can maintain this section at this time. I suggest all current moderators of the Public Scripts section as well as SRL Developers have the ability to moderate this section in addition to the Public Scripts section. In addition, perhaps also the team appointed to maintaining the SRL-OSR library.

Nice idea. I'll see what others (higher up) think about this and get their opinion before committing to it, though.

From: Flight

Categories for OSR Scripts section
-This speaks for itself. There's quite a few scripts stacking up in the newly added Old School Scripts section and honestly there needs to be origination here. It's obvious OSR will draw a lot of attention and, I assume, will constantly draw in more scripts. It will only grow from here on out, so before it really gets crowded in there with random scripts scattered around let's make categories exactly like what we have in the Public Scripts section.

I was just about to get working on this. Just after I finish touching up a new section dedicated to an integral part of our community as a thanks. *wink wink, nudge nudge*

From: Flight

Additional sections in OSR
-I suggest a Research & Development section for OSR

Research and development for OSR? What do you mean?

From: Flight

Small tweak to the Help and Tutorials section
-Because tutorials may be made but differ between RS2 and OSR I suggest an optional tag to be added to the top of a thread title, choosing between "(none)", "[RS2]", "[All]" and "[OSR]". It's not really high priority but it would clarify between various tutorials posted.

Unfortunately, I cannot really see this working out, as aren't most guides general and can be applied to either RS/OSR (aside from a few specific ones, e.g., "How to setup XXXXX")?

From: Flight

OSR Scripts added to the Quick Links
-That section receives a lot traffic, let's make it easily accessible just as the Public Scripts section is.

Reasonable request.

About the R&D section for OSR; I was thinking along the lines of randoms development. Perhaps CynicRus's converted solver plugins would be a good example, as well as the unofficial OSR version of SPS. Upcoming projects related to this version of RS (and SRL-OSR itself).

Aww yea, am I special and you're happy to see me? :3


OT: Nice idea here Daniel and some good ideas there Flight!

i support the idea for categories for OSR scripts :D

EDIT: well i feel silly :p it's all ready there now

I would like to rant about SRL Stats being broken for over a year, but I don't think it falls under the 'website related' category so I will keep my mouth shut :p


E: Also I've reported about 20+ outdated scripts in the past (outdated well before EOC) and they are still clogging up the working scripts section.

1) let lape have its own catagory, it's not popular now but a lot of people still don't know about it because its a sub catagory
2) osr sections like flight said
3) option for us to delete threads in all sections, there are still some sections were I cannot delete my own threads
4) maybe a once a year srl event were people get prizes, like srl superlatives, like catagory for best scripter, most inactive staff, most likely to give an infraction, biggest spammer, fastest learner, etc etc. winner will receive a cup that they will have for that year until the next event.

[spoiler]I need these tags, please![/spoiler]
Would be really useful.

Good example => String Handling Commands <= I could make that topic so much more cleaner and that way easier to read, using spoiler tags.

So yeah, I would love to see spoiler tags added to forums. :)

From: The Mayor
I would like to rant about SRL Stats being broken for over a year, but I don't think it falls under the 'website related' category so I will keep my mouth shut :p


E: Also I've reported about 20+ outdated scripts in the past (outdated well before EOC) and they are still clogging up the working scripts section.

Give me script mod powers and I will destroy these scripts!!!

And already love the new OSR sections!

From: EngageTheRage
i support the idea for categories for OSR scripts :D

EDIT: well i feel silly :p it's all ready there now

Already done :)

From: The Mayor
I would like to rant about SRL Stats being broken for over a year, but I don't think it falls under the 'website related' category so I will keep my mouth shut :p

It totally does! I didn't realise it was broken :( I'll have to ask Wizzup (as he is the maintainer of SRL stats).

From: The Mayor

E: Also I've reported about 20+ outdated scripts in the past (outdated well before EOC) and they are still clogging up the working scripts section.

I'll get onto that. The problem is that there are multiple sections where things get reported. And the "reported scripts" section is several sections deep, which staff (obviously) seldom check.

From: Officer Barbrady
1) let lape have its own catagory, it's not popular now but a lot of people still don't know about it because its a sub catagory

I don't think Lape deserves it's own category, as it falls under Simba development (hell, not even PascalScript has its own (sub)forum). People will know about it soon, when SRL-6 is shortly released (and requires Lape).

From: Officer Barbrady

2) osr sections like flight said

Done :)

From: Officer Barbrady

3) option for us to delete threads in all sections, there are still some sections were I cannot delete my own threads

I'll have to look into this. If there was a specific reason as to why people aren't allowed to delete their threads/posts in some sections and not others, then I won't change it. Otherwise, I don't see why not :)

From: Officer Barbrady

4) maybe a once a year srl event were people get prizes, like srl superlatives, like catagory for best scripter, most inactive staff, most likely to give an infraction, biggest spammer, fastest learner, etc etc. winner will receive a cup that they will have for that year until the next event.

Members regularly run and participate competitions for scripting achievements. Unfortunately, we won't have any prizes for those who continuously break forum rules/for irrelevant things.

From: Janilabo
[spoiler]I need these tags, please![/spoiler]
Would be really useful.

Good example => String Handling Commands <= I could make that topic so much more cleaner and that way easier to read, using spoiler tags.

So yeah, I would love to see spoiler tags added to forums. :)

That would require a plugin, which Hobbit & Wizzup? (the ones that can install them) are not too keen on (and for good reason too; there has been too many security issues surrounding them). Nonetheless, I'll still bring it up and here's hoping they agree :)

Also, when moving all the threads (*phew*). I think I misplaced a firemaking script. Could please let me know where it is? :D

From: Daniel
Also, when moving all the threads (*phew*). I think I misplaced a firemaking script. Could please let me know where it is? :D

Im Quoting this post because I don't want to quote the massive response above


Ok, so scratch the role breaking ones, we could still have racial yearly/6 month prizes:

Best srl scripter - cup
Most improved - cup
Best additude - cup
Most helpful - cup
Best script (osr/Eoc) - person gets their thread stickied in its section


The winner gets a special cup, and on the next event they "pass" it to the next winner


The winner could be detirmined by srl junior+ votes, srl members could nominate people for the cups.



Also a cup for people who do donate over $30-$40 maybe?

Honestly i think we should copy what powerbot(lol) does with there script sections, merge some together.

From: Officer Barbrady
Best srl scripter - cup
Most improved - cup
Best additude - cup
Most helpful - cup
Best script (osr/Eoc) - person gets their thread stickied in its section

We already have cups for scripter, and helpers. :) As-well as for newcomers that are promising (hence the "promising newcomer" cup). And the sticky thread idea, I am not too fond of - what if a script becomes outdated/not actively maintained throughout that six-twelve month gap? :(

If people want it though, I am sure we can give it a shot. :)

From: Ollybest
Honestly i think we should copy what powerbot(lol) does with there script sections, merge some together.

I'll leave this up for other users (you guys) to decide :) I do quite like it, and it would 'declutter' our forum count.

From: Daniel


I'll leave this up for other users (you guys) to decide :) I do quite like it, and it would 'declutter' our forum count.

I agree with merging some script sections. Skills like WC and FM go hand in hand, as well as money making and collecting, so it'll definitely neaten the place up a little bit.

From: Rich
money making and collecting

I already made that change several hours ago :D

From: Daniel
I already made that change several hours ago :D

Ah my bad. You're just too quick!

Ohh geez.. Ok some things I want:

• Programming section needs separate subsections for each language. Its a complete mess.
• One unified section specifically for Simba bugs and a separate sub-forum for Smart bugs. We can't just dump everything into one forum for Smart. It's currently the equivalent of the programming forum.
• Spoiler tags.
• Fix the hash tags. When I type #1 , I'm not trying to do the twitter tag, I'm trying to say Number 1. Not #Omggsgsngg .
• The ability to delete a post after banning/infracting OR have it auto-hide all the user's posts upon "Spam-Bot" ban.
• Archive section where all old threads that die get placed. Or where all FAQ/Answers go. After all, we have so many threads/tutorials on the same topics over and over and over..
• Move the Scripts stuff to Runescape section. What exactly is SRL Public if it has "Runescape scripts" which belongs in the "Runescape" section? no?

Oh, one thing just popped into my head. Maybe I'm just being thick, but where has the Advanced Search button gone? The one way I can get there is to click the search button (top left one) with no search criteria, as that tells me to add some more detail and gives me the advanced options.

From: Rich
Oh, one thing just popped into my head. Maybe I'm just being thick, but where has the Advanced Search button gone? The one way I can get there is to click the search button (top left one) with no search criteria, as that tells me to add some more detail and gives me the advanced options.

Different theme than me maybe, but

Yeh, I'm running Metro, and I can't seem to find it anyway. Changed it to VB Default and it's there like yours. So it needs adding to the theme I'm guessing?

From: Rich
Yeh, I'm running Metro, and I can't seem to find it anyway. Changed it to VB Default and it's there like yours. So it needs adding to the theme I'm guessing?

With metro, click the magnifying glass symbol and it goes to Advanced Search

From: Brandon

• have it auto-hide all the user's posts upon "Spam-Bot" ban.

If this is an option, it would definitely clean things up.

Seems a bit strange having one ranger guilding script in the minigame section while the other is in the combat/fighting section.

From: Brandon

• Programming section needs separate subsections for each language. Its a complete mess.

I'm not sure what happened, but all the programming/language-specific stuff were supposed to be moved here. I think BraK just got lazy and forgot (as it is quite a PITA to use vB admin control panel).

From: Brandon

• One unified section specifically for Simba bugs and a separate sub-forum for Smart bugs. We can't just dump everything into one forum for Smart. It's currently the equivalent of the programming forum.

Wizzup? wanted to keep Simba bugs to Mantis Bug Tracker when we were doing the forum restructuring. However, that appears to have changed.

Would it be a good idea to use the vB Project and link to that instead? :)

From: Brandon

• Spoiler tags.

As has been said before, this requires a plugin/modification of vB source files, which none of the active admins are able to do :( (Only Wizzup? and Hobbit can).

However, I have raised the issue in the staff section, so it won't go by unnoticed :)

From: Brandon

• Fix the hash tags. When I type #1 , I'm not trying to do the twitter tag, I'm trying to say Number 1. Not #Omggsgsngg .

Haha. That would be a plugin bug and, again, would require Hobbit's attention when he gets back (August).

From: Brandon

• The ability to delete a post after banning/infracting OR have it auto-hide all the user's posts upon "Spam-Bot" ban.

I used to have this gripe too when I was SSRL and banning all the spam-bots, only to have their spam posts remain open for (sometimes) days on end. Unfortunately, there is no way to do this natively without giving SSRL permission to delete posts in all forums. :(

From: Brandon

• Archive section where all old threads that die get placed. Or where all FAQ/Answers go. After all, we have so many threads/tutorials on the same topics over and over and over..

Like a graveyard section? I'm not too sure how others feel about that (I think it has been suggested in the past).

I think the duplicate tutorials are a good idea, and provides variety for a user learning about the topic (we did have an SRL Wiki, with plans to have one tutorial for one topic, freely editable and expandable not just by the OP, but this quickly died when nobody wanted to maintain and submit to it :( It's just been a [recently discovered] haven for spam bots, so it has been locked).

And the duplicate questions are just byproducts of online forums, unfortunately, as users are just too lazy to search before posting :(

From: Brandon

• Move the Scripts stuff to Runescape section. What exactly is SRL Public if it has "Runescape scripts" which belongs in the "Runescape" section? no?

It has always been in SRL Public as it pertains to SRL. That's just how it has always been, since the early days of these forums. If other people want it moved there too, then yeah, I'll do it :)

From: Rich
Oh, one thing just popped into my head. Maybe I'm just being thick, but where has the Advanced Search button gone? The one way I can get there is to click the search button (top left one) with no search criteria, as that tells me to add some more detail and gives me the advanced options.

If you are using the Metro theme, just click on the search button (magnifying glass) in the top left corner without typing anything in :)

From: Solar
Seems a bit strange having one ranger guilding script in the minigame section while the other is in the combat/fighting section.

Well, the one I moved to the mini-games section said it was for a specific mini-game in the range guild. The other did not. Is this wrong?

@Daniel They both do the same minigame in the ranging guild to train ranging.

Good work Daniel thanks a lot!

edit: i would love to see the srl member app area without scripts just comments or at least bits of it but thats never gona happen :(

From: Officer Barbrady
I actually really would like to see top post quotes :) we already have top posters and reps why not post quotes?

Because then they would get farmed in NOTA like they currently are.

I'd love to see the script categories merged, mining & smithing, etc.

Script category merging of Slayer and combat would shove me into no longer being the only script in my section! Egads, no longer special!

But in all seriousness, that should probably happen - however I think it should coincide with another update:
The ability to sort threads by topic or (in this new case) skill. Sorting by date is useful in many cases - but what happens we combine stuff like mining and smithing, but I really only care about the 4 smithing scripts and not the 20 mining scripts in the way? (A little bit of an exaggeration on quantity, but nonetheless, the point is there).

How about favorites? Or a quick access your subscribed threads. Like a drop down menu from the top and all you gotta do is click on the drop down menu and the recently favorites threads would show up there. IMO its better then subscribing to threads because with the subscribe stuff, you have to go to a different page and wait to load it up. Or you could just add the drop down menu. :p

From: samerdl
Good work Daniel thanks a lot!

edit: i would love to see the srl member app area without scripts just comments or at least bits of it but thats never gona happen :(

Do you mean the applications people make to become a Member?

From: Rich
Do you mean the applications people make to become a Member?

Yeah, i dont mean to see the scripts that they post, perhaps just something to clear up what happens once a user posts a member app, am sure a lot of people would love to see that or at least bits of it, maybe like declined app :bart:

We should just get rid of All Non-guide and Non-active threads that are over 2 years old. I constantly see threads that are 2+ years old (today a 5 year old one) being gravedug by either spam bots or new users. Forums needs a good cleanup of old threads and scripts badly :/

From: Itankbots
We should just get rid of All Non-guide and Non-active threads that are over 2 years old. I constantly see threads that are 2+ years old (today a 5 year old one) being gravedug by either spam bots or new users. Forums needs a good cleanup of old threads and scripts badly :/

NOT OLD SCRIPTS!! I BEG!!
I love to download old scripts and try to make them work again.. it's a fun little challenge for me ;p ..




Anwyays, to my suggestion..

I always use the new post button..

Before i click something, i read the title and the category..

It's really annoying how categories for OS and EOC are the same..


Because i don't play OS..

The first few times i didn't notice for a while but now im always looking to see if once i click on the thread it will go to..

ForumSRL > PublicRunescape > Scripts > Combat/Fighting Scripts

Or

ForumSRL > Public > Old School Runescape > Old School Scripts > Combat/Fighting Scripts

I hope this makes sense..

Also does it for script requests etc.. anything with the same name as the eoc version.

From: Peanuts
NOT OLD SCRIPTS!! I BEG!!
I love to download old scripts and try to make them work again.. it's a fun little challenge for me ;p ..




Anwyays, to my suggestion..

I always use the new post button..

Before i click something, i read the title and the category..

It's really annoying how categories for OS and EOC are the same..


Because i don't play OS..

The first few times i didn't notice for a while but now im always looking to see if once i click on the thread it will go to..

ForumSRL > PublicRunescape > Scripts > Combat/Fighting Scripts

Or

ForumSRL > Public > Old School Runescape > Old School Scripts > Combat/Fighting Scripts

I hope this makes sense..

Also does it for script requests etc.. anything with the same name as the eoc version.

Yeah not the old scripts, They just go to the Outdated/Broken section. But there is still alot of broken scripts that are NOT in the outdated/Broken and should be. Or like random pointless posts/threads that are 2 years old, should really be moved to atleast an archive folder.

From: Itankbots
Yeah not the old scripts, They just go to the Outdated/Broken section. But there is still alot of broken scripts that are NOT in the outdated/Broken and should be. Or like random pointless posts/threads that are 2 years old, should really be moved to atleast an archive folder.

This.

@Daniel

I would be willing to put together a list of outdated scripts for you to move into the outdated section

From: Kevin

The ability to sort threads by topic or (in this new case) skill. Sorting by date is useful in many cases - but what happens we combine stuff like mining and smithing, but I really only care about the 4 smithing scripts and not the 20 mining scripts in the way? (A little bit of an exaggeration on quantity, but nonetheless, the point is there).

The tags system is still present in the categories, so you can still sort by the type of script if necessary (however, it would be [like it always has been] still up to the user to appropriately tag their thread when creating it).

From: StickToTheScript
How about favorites? Or a quick access your subscribed threads. Like a drop down menu from the top and all you gotta do is click on the drop down menu and the recently favorites threads would show up there. IMO its better then subscribing to threads because with the subscribe stuff, you have to go to a different page and wait to load it up. Or you could just add the drop down menu. :p

This would probably require a third-party plugin to implement, and thus Hobbit/Wizzup?'s domain. :(

From: samerdl
Yeah, i dont mean to see the scripts that they post, perhaps just something to clear up what happens once a user posts a member app, am sure a lot of people would love to see that or at least bits of it, maybe like declined app :bart:

I have no idea what you mean, sorry :-/ Do you mean a notification if your application fails?

From: Itankbots
We should just get rid of All Non-guide and Non-active threads that are over 2 years old. I constantly see threads that are 2+ years old (today a 5 year old one) being gravedug by either spam bots or new users. Forums needs a good cleanup of old threads and scripts badly :/

There is nothing wrong with bumping old-threads, as long as they are still on topic and relevant (and in these forums, most things remain relevant [e.g. Simba errors]).

From: Peanuts
The first few times i didn't notice for a while but now im always looking to see if once i click on the thread it will go to..

ForumSRL > PublicRunescape > Scripts > Combat/Fighting Scripts

Or

ForumSRL > Public > Old School Runescape > Old School Scripts > Combat/Fighting Scripts

I hope this makes sense..

Also does it for script requests etc.. anything with the same name as the eoc version.

I really don't know how to fix this, without [pre/app]ending text to every single forum in OSRS. Would you like me to do that (would also see what other users think, too).

From: Itankbots
But there is still alot of broken scripts that are NOT in the outdated/Broken and should be. Or like random pointless posts/threads that are 2 years old, should really be moved to atleast an archive folder.

… and …

From: Officer Barbrady

I would be willing to put together a list of outdated scripts for you to move into the outdated section

Yes, please do! Both of you! :) There is a "Report Scripts" sub-forum at the top of each scripts section specifically designed for this purpose.

Regards,
~ Daniel.

Also, as everybody here unanimously agrees with merging certain script subforums, I'll go ahead and do that this afternoon :)

So:

• Mining & Smithing
• Woodcutting & Firemaking
• Fishing & Cooking
• Move Slayer into Combat

Am I missing anything else?

From: Daniel
Also, as everybody here unanimously agrees with merging certain script subforums, I'll go ahead and do that this afternoon :)

So:

• Mining & Smithing
• Woodcutting & Firemaking
• Fishing & Cooking
• Move Slayer into Combat

Am I missing anything else?

Should fletching slide into woodcutting and firemaking? It's as much a part of woodcutting as firemaking is, I would imagine.

From: Kevin
Should fletching slide into woodcutting and firemaking? It's as much a part of woodcutting as firemaking is, I would imagine.

I don't know. I haven't played the game in years, and even then, I was never a member (so no fletching) :(

Why not make the forums automatically put threads w/o answers since 4/5 months in an "archived" section where threads are closed ?

Would be nice if we could align

 or [REPORT] boxes to center. :)

From: Kevin
Should fletching slide into woodcutting and firemaking? It's as much a part of woodcutting as firemaking is, I would imagine.

But with fletching you can do much more than just bows… For example arrows and bolts.

Edit: sorry, thought i had the fix for shatters 'centre' thing..
.. nope. lol

@Daniel
What i mean is when we try to view the SRL member application area (where people post their apps) we can't, we have no access. Am not asking we get access to view the topics - but access to see the topics overview, like view sections and not topic contents.

Example: Viewing Official Business Section > can see all the topic titles with the author, but on the right last reply is hidden and if i was to click on a topic i would get access violation. Just something small..

Basically view Member application Section (where people apply for SRL) for guests but no ability to view the topic contents/last reply, just a forum overview.

From: samerdl
Basically view Member application Section (where people apply for SRL) for guests but no ability to view the topic contents/last reply, just a forum overview.

Umm.. why? :S

You can already view your application, and AFAIK, you can still view the forum (but your application is the only visible one there).

C'mon guys!! I don't know what to do!! :-/

And once I merge a forum, I am not going to unmerge it. As that would have to be done manually, and would be a complete PITA to individually move every single Y-script from the X forum to the Y forum :(

From: Daniel
C'mon guys!! I don't know what to do!! :-/

And once I merge a forum, I am not going to unmerge it. As that would have to be done manually, and would be a complete PITA to individually move every single Y-script from the X forum to the Y forum :(

Just keep yelling to get srl stats fixed :)

One thing that bugs me is the page numbering. Not sure if it's just mines but it's not all aligned properly:

From: Rich
One thing that bugs me is the page numbering. Not sure if it's just mines but it's not all aligned properly:

Old theme is much better IMO no bugs like that

Still doing it for me, even on Satellite :/

From: Daniel
Umm.. why? :S

You can already view your application, and AFAIK, you can still view the forum (but your application is the only visible one there).

didnt app for srl member dont think i can anyway, was just curious, thanks anyway

Guys! Don't forget about me! Should I just copy Powerbots script forum layout and be done with it? (keep in mind that I won't be changing it once it's done)

From: Rich
One thing that bugs me is the page numbering. Not sure if it's just mines but it's not all aligned properly:

That is because vBulletin does this by default, and the themes we have don't override that setting.

From: Ashaman88
Just keep yelling to get srl stats fixed :)

Yell at @Wizzup?; :p

From: Daniel
Guys! Don't forget about me! Should I just copy Powerbots script forum layout and be done with it? (keep in mind that I won't be changing it once it's done)

Powerbot merges crafting with fletching and I'd prefer if they were separate just because they're not complementary skills like mining/smithing and woodcutting/firemaking are.

Other than that it looks fine though. Thanks for taking the time to make all these forum adjustments :)

From: Daniel
Guys! Don't forget about me! Should I just copy Powerbots script forum layout and be done with it? (keep in mind that I won't be changing it once it's done)



That is because vBulletin does this by default, and the themes we have don't override that setting.



Yell at @Wizzup?; :p

I'm a fan of keeping them separate… Just b/c it can get confusing to find specific skills if they are merged… just my 2 cents

I like the idea of

• combat & slayer
• mining & smithing
• fishing & cooking
• fletching & crafting
• woodcutting & firemaking
• farming & herb

and the rest of the skills in there own section, I generally think it will "less clutter" our sub-forums, and make the sections more active :)

From: Ollybest
I like the idea of

• combat & slayer
• mining & smithing
• fishing & cooking
• fletching & crafting
• woodcutting & firemaking
• farming & herb

and the rest of the skills in there own section, I generally think it will "less clutter" our sub-forums, and make the sections more active :)

I think mining deserves its own section because there's so many mining scripts, unless sme are outdated and can be moved to the outdated section ill test a few when I get back home

I see like 10 that might work well, and there aren't many in smithing so it shouldn't be a problem

Well, for the time being, I will do what Ollybest suggested later tonight, with the exception of merging the Fletching and Crafting sections. Does anybody disagree with this decision?

From: Daniel
Well, for the time being, I will do what Ollybest suggested later tonight, with the exception of merging the Fletching and Crafting sections. Does anybody disagree with this decision?

As long as the outdated mining scripts are moved so people don't have to sift through abunch of scripts to get what they want like on powerban

From: Officer Barbrady
As long as the outdated mining scripts are moved so people don't have to sift through abunch of scripts to get what they want like on powerban

If you find one that's outdated you can report it and a mod will probably see it and move it.

From: BMWxi
If you find one that's outdated you can report it and a mod will probably see it and move it.

Reported like 10 scripts the other day they are yet to be moved

From: Officer Barbrady
Reported like 10 scripts the other day they are yet to be moved

b/c daniel no give me power!

From: Officer Barbrady
Reported like 10 scripts the other day they are yet to be moved

Bloody hell. It was a couple of days ago and I'm incredibly busy with university at the moment.

Not to mention vBulletin is incredibly annoying to use when modifying forums :(

They will get done, though :)

From: Daniel
Bloody hell. It was a couple of days ago and I'm incredibly busy with university at the moment.

Not to mention vBulletin is incredibly annoying to use when modifying forums :(

They will get done, though :)

I'm going to do a Complete wipe when I get home so I can be sure to report outdated ones, the ones I reported I was pretty sure frm what I could see (no updates for months before Eoc)

Move the "First Scripts" to the actual "Runescape Scripts" section.

How about bundle the five script sections (RS, OSRS, RSPS, First Script, Non-RS) into a forum, and have them as sub-forums? Would make the front page a bit more bearable.

This is for an update on the forum design:

We should be able to see the avatar of the last poster on the thread, adds some "colors" to the forums :p
like this
or like this

I would love to see a snippets section for OSR. I keep putting small modifications in the SRL-OSR development area but that area is closed to normal users. Please and thank you!

@Daniel
@Daniel
@Daniel

Do you remove double posts and/or remove the post count from the double posting user?..

I feel people would be annoyed by me doing it all the time..
I don't mean to…


I guess im also talking about the people that spam double/triple posts n shiz.. .. on purpose.




Example: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103283

Peanuts' post reminded me of a feature some other forums use. If someone double posts, the board automatically merges their posts. That'd be quite nice.

Hey, sorry guys for not doing some things. I have been extremely busy this week and university exams are just around the corner, so my focus are those. :(

From: Rich
How about bundle the five script sections (RS, OSRS, RSPS, First Script, Non-RS) into a forum, and have them as sub-forums? Would make the front page a bit more bearable.

Well, I'd like to leave it up to the rest of the community to decide on this one. What does everyone else thing?

From: [XoL]
This is for an update on the forum design:

We should be able to see the avatar of the last poster on the thread, adds some "colors" to the forums :p
like this
<snuppy>

This would require a modification, and thus Wizzup? or Hobbit's domain.

From: Flight
I would love to see a snippets section for OSR. I keep putting small modifications in the SRL-OSR development area but that area is closed to normal users. Please and thank you!

@Daniel
@Daniel
@Daniel

Good idea. I'll get on that some time.

From: Rich
Peanuts' post reminded me of a feature some other forums use. If someone double posts, the board automatically merges their posts. That'd be quite nice.

This is commonly found in SMF forums, but there is no native feature for vBulletin to do this.

From: Peanuts
Do you remove double posts and/or remove the post count from the double posting user?..

Generally if people report others for double posts, or we see them, we'll just merge them. Try not to be a repeat offender!

From: Rich
How about bundle the five script sections (RS, OSRS, RSPS, First Script, Non-RS) into a forum, and have them as sub-forums? Would make the front page a bit more bearable.

Great idea IMO.

From: Rich
How about bundle the five script sections (RS, OSRS, RSPS, First Script, Non-RS) into a forum, and have them as sub-forums? Would make the front page a bit more bearable.

Support!

From: Rich
Peanuts' post reminded me of a feature some other forums use. If someone double posts, the board automatically merges their posts. That'd be quite nice.

Another nice idea.

From: Shatterhand
Would be nice if we could align

 or [REPORT] boxes to center. :)

It's not nice, trust me. Since the posts are all left justified by default and then having the boxes centred it looks odd and annoying. Especially since there are many different sizes of screens its just not a good time. I also tried it with a fluid width for the boxes and it still looked messed up being centred because the text for each line is generally fairly short so you are left with this wide box that is half empty.

From: Rich
One thing that bugs me is the page numbering. Not sure if it's just mines but it's not all aligned properly:

Theme issue, I've tried to fix it and haven't been able to so far.

From: [XoL]
This is for an update on the forum design:

We should be able to see the avatar of the last poster on the thread, adds some "colors" to the forums :p
like this
or like this

I might be able to do this (second one) but don't count on it as I would have to do it manually for every single theme…

From: Rich
Peanuts' post reminded me of a feature some other forums use. If someone double posts, the board automatically merges their posts. That'd be quite nice.

There is a feature for this in vB4 but it was buggy when I tested it out while setting up the new forums and haven't gotten around to tweaking it to make it more reliable. There have been more important issues needing attention.

[spoiler="Secrets of the Universe"]Surprise! It's 42! Are you surprised? I'm not.[/spoiler]

[noparse][spoiler="<Title>"]<Hidden text>[/spoiler][/noparse]

Just some quick gfx so its not just stock elements, will improve looks more later.
Also this was done without a plugin.

From: Hobbit
[spoiler="Secrets of the Universe"]Surprise! It's 42! Are you surprised? I'm not.[/spoiler]

[noparse][spoiler="<Title>"]<Hidden text>[/spoiler][/noparse]

Just some quick gfx so its not just stock elements, will improve looks more later.

That looks really neat.

Might I also suggest a way for users to bump a thread without having to double-post? Of course of a time limitation should also come along with this. But then again this is accomplished via a plugin so… [Not holding my breath]

From: Hobbit
[spoiler="Secrets of the Universe"]Surprise! It's 42! Are you surprised? I'm not.[/spoiler]

[noparse][spoiler="<Title>"]<Hidden text>[/spoiler][/noparse]

Just some quick gfx so its not just stock elements, will improve looks more later.
Also this was done without a plugin.

Functionality is nice, the look is bad.. Also, is it always going to embed the text into the spoiler? In other words, is it always going to have that beveled grey border and the black dashed border around it?

I never knew there was such a tag as the "noparse" tag.. :l I might start using that from now on :)

From: Brandon
Functionality is nice, the look is bad.. Also, is it always going to embed the text into the spoiler? In other words, is it always going to have that beveled grey border and the black dashed border around it?

I never knew there was such a tag as the "noparse" tag.. :l I might start using that from now on :)

Like I said, it is quick graphics to make it look a little better than just a box and a button. I do plan on improving the look later. Also, your new SMART isn't the most aesthetically pleasing creation either ;)

From: Hobbit
Like I said, it is quick graphics to make it look a little better than just a box and a button. I do plan on improving the look later. Also, your new SMART isn't the most aesthetically pleasing creation either ;)

;) Yeah I'm pretty bad at designing but hey, the functionality is nice :D Also, would you have time to fix the Hashtag issue as described here: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103688&p=1245062#post1245062 ?

From: Hobbit
[spoiler="Secrets of the Universe"]Surprise! It's 42! Are you surprised? I'm not.[/spoiler]

[noparse][spoiler="<Title>"]<Hidden text>[/spoiler][/noparse]

Just some quick gfx so its not just stock elements, will improve looks more later.
Also this was done without a plugin.

Thanks a bunch for adding those tags, Hobbit!
Good work man. :)

Mi liek!

Yay spoiler tags!!

I want forum integration with SRL Stats and other nifty "competitive"-ish things like that :)

I've heard a hundred times over that SRL-Stats needs to be re-written server side to support the information that passes through it. I also have heard that it's a significant re-write (no idea personally as I've never seen the code behind it), but I'm willing to work towards getting it up and running for everyone again :)

We used to have the stats forum integrated years ago back at srl-forums.com. I would love for them to be integrated again.

From: Kevin
I've heard a hundred times over that SRL-Stats needs to be re-written server side to support the information that passes through it. I also have heard that it's a significant re-write (no idea personally as I've never seen the code behind it), but I'm willing to work towards getting it up and running for everyone again :)

https://github.com/MerlijnWajer/SRL-Stats more the point is Wizzup would rather re write in some other form of python (no idea what the name is).

NEED HELP PLZ!!!!!!

ok can someone plz just send me a predownload and setup virsion of simba plz all i want to do is just bot on 07 rs plz!!! dieing to make my skills better but ive tryed to watch the tutoril on how to download and install it but got very confused if u can help me plz do or message me on skype (mucenti) and my name should say cameron with skrillex on both sides of my name) plz help me someone plz im kinda stupid when it comes to this stuff just wanna bot 07 rs thats all



p.s ive been trying to find a bot for 07 rs for a week now and have gotten lots of viruses but luckly my anti-virus works well except i need help with one thing i ended up getting a generic back.door virus and its in the virus volt but i cant get rid of it if u can help with that too plz let me kno wat to do





ps. i kno a lil bout computers but not coding and stuff like that with making programs…..

you can also reach me on 07 rs at godzila_thc

@Daniel I would like to see the botting help and guides section cleaned up: http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=488

As you can see most people fail to realise theres a subsection for "botting help" so they create a thread in the guides section and it buries the actual guides seems kind of counter productive their burying the guides they need lol

From: Officer Barbrady
@Daniel I would like to see the botting help and guides section cleaned up: http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=488

As you can see most people fail to realise theres a subsection for "botting help" so they create a thread in the guides section and it buries the actual guides seems kind of counter productive their burying the guides they need lol

As a note to this, it would probably be simpler for the future to have the main section be botting help, with tutorials as the sub-section (thus causing people who really don't care to flood botting help by default).

From: godzila_thc
you can also reach me on 07 rs at godzila_thc

You should try making your own thread and ask more specific questions over in the help section. I'm sure some people wouldn't mind explaining some things to you.

From: Hobbit
We used to have the stats forum integrated years ago back at srl-forums.com. I would love for them to be integrated again.

+1 to this ;)

this website is really great, and very simple :p

OK, I read over this thread a few days ago, now mine ban has ended I will give you my input.

From: Hobbit
[spoiler="Secrets of the Universe"]Surprise! It's 42! Are you surprised? I'm not.[/spoiler]

[noparse][spoiler="<Title>"]<Hidden text>[/spoiler][/noparse]

Just some quick gfx so its not just stock elements, will improve looks more later.
Also this was done without a plugin.

Firstly, Hobbit I love you.

Secondly, as for giving SSRL the ability to remove spam threads. I think we should give them the ability. I'v suggested it before, I realise it means giving them a lot more permission but it would be worth it, so it has my support.

Last but not least, grouping sub sections would also be a good idea to make the forums less congested and easier to navigate through.

I want this:



I really want that! I want to click <3 likes on all Janilabo's posts ;)
Seriously, we should really have that.

@Daniel
TK JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING!!!
The graphics section is automatically sorted by title -.- it should be sorted by "last post by". It's caused multiple grave digs to happen. E.g. The one from today: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52981

From: The Killer
@Daniel
TK JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING!!!
The graphics section is automatically sorted by title -.- it should be sorted by "last post by". It's caused multiple grave digs to happen. E.g. The one from today: http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52981

Fixed.

Thank you :)

From: Flight
I would love to see a snippets section for OSR. I keep putting small modifications in the SRL-OSR development area but that area is closed to normal users. Please and thank you!

@Daniel
@Daniel
@Daniel

Any final decision on this, @Daniel? I have a few things I'd like to post that would only be appropriate for a OSR-oriented snippets section.

From: Flight
Any final decision on this, @Daniel? I have a few things I'd like to post that would only be appropriate for a OSR-oriented snippets section.

Here you go. Keep in mind that if it is unused, I'll more than likely just merge with with the SRL Snippets forum.

From: Daniel
Here you go. Keep in mind that if it is unused, I'll more than likely just merge with with the SRL Snippets forum.

Maybe when reflection hook are updated and the include is cleaned up there could be a reflection snippets section Or (I like this idea better) mandatory prefix [Reflection, colour] ?

From: Officer Barbrady
MOr (I like this idea better) mandatory prefix [Reflection, colour] ?

That's what I was thinking if the section receives little activity.

@Daniel Maybe an archive section in the lower rewards and promotion forum, so when someone gets a cup or title(or not), the thread can be moved.

From: masterBB
@Daniel Maybe an archive section in the lower rewards and promotion forum, so when someone gets a cup or title(or not), the thread can be moved.

+1 - Would clear the clutter and be easier for SSRL+ to view the active threads

can we have the wiki back? :/

From: masterBB
@Daniel Maybe an archive section in the lower rewards and promotion forum, so when someone gets a cup or title(or not), the thread can be moved.

Nice idea. Done. :)

From: xtrapsp
can we have the wiki back? :/

We have had one, twice now. Both times nobody bothered to update the content and it just turned into a haven for spam(bots). I don't think we'll go down that road again, unless you can convince @Wizzup? otherwise (shouldn't be too hard, he likes wikis).

From: Daniel
Nice idea. Done. :)



We have had one, twice now. Both times nobody bothered to update the content and it just turned into a haven for spam(bots). I don't think we'll go down that road again, unless you can convince @Wizzup? otherwise (shouldn't be too hard, he likes wikis).

I wouldn't mind updating it..

From: Officer Barbrady
I wouldn't mind updating it..

That's what they always say.

From: Daniel
That's what they always say.

No really I have a lot of free time on my hands..

From: Daniel
That's what they always say.

I would like the wiki back, we just need to make sure spambots can't access it.

From: Wizzup?
I would like the wiki back, we just need to make sure spambots can't access it.

Could you make it require to be logged into a Villavu account that has certain (low) requirements? They'd have to be low enough that it wouldn't deter actual users though.

I would love to see bounties: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_bounty

Essentially someone who wishes to see a feature could post a bounty to see it happen, and devs would get GPs. Alternatively a dev could make a post of features that they want to make, and people would donate until they get to a certain point (like kickstarter). You could create another forum section, or even another site in python or something.

I think the main downside would be it would shift the focus of the project from fun to GPs(ideally it would not), although I see no reason why both would not be optimal, I could see why that may be a problem for some. Another problem would be that we are dealing with GPs on a forum and thus: 1. This kinda goes against the forum policy of no RL->RS in the non-member's board, and 2. We will either have to institute Middle-Men, (or just use admins, really) or say that the scripter/donater would be in charge of dealing with it (which is also a viable strategy).

This has worked in other OSS communities, and I've always wondered how well this would integrate into the SRL community :).

@Daniel Bump topic button? Like, you can bump a topic once every 24 hours / or once a week?

From: Officer Barbrady
@Daniel Bump topic button? Like, you can bump a topic once every 24 hours / or once a week?

No, if there is no interest in your topic it might just die. Though we usually don't care if it was a question or something big and you bump it after a while.

From: masterBB
No, if there is no interest in your topic it might just die. Though we usually don't care if it was a question or something big and you bump it after a while.

I don't know man, I've seen some very interesting threads from years ago with discussion of some original, very clever ideas. The 3D MS mapping engine, computer vision that Ben was working on, SKy scripter's canny core, some smart auto-responders (but that's in the higher up boards), old methods of accurately solving random events. Many of these can still be further developed but 99% of the community will never find them. :(

From: Flight
I don't know man, I've seen some very interesting threads from years ago with discussion of some original, very clever ideas. The 3D MS mapping engine, computer vision that Ben was working on, SKy scripter's canny core, some smart auto-responders (but that's in the higher up boards), old methods of accurately solving random events. Many of these can still be further developed but 99% of the community will never find them. :(

We could start an interesting thread thread, and people could contribute and see if there's any projects they want to work on.

Although, you could also put it on the wiki, if it gets put up again :)

Give -SRL-Members the ability to de-rep again. Why am i classed as a SRL-Member who abuses rep? check my history if you can, I hardly ever de-rep and i never abuse the de-rep function.
Even tho derepping is of no real benefit for me. i feel as if the SRL-Member status is getting degraded. why do we all have to loose functionality just because some chumps abused it. Couldn't you just disable the derep function on those SRL-Member accounts who actually have abused it? Hate to say it but whoever disabled rep for SRL Members and below is Stereotyping.
Rant over.

From: DrChill
We could start an interesting thread thread, and people could contribute and see if there's any projects they want to work on.

Although, you could also put it on the wiki, if it gets put up again :)

That's actually not a bad idea. A single thread with a compilation of old & forgotten projects but still have potential.

From: Kasi
Give -SRL-Members the ability to de-rep again. Why am i classed as a SRL-Member who abuses rep? check my history if you can, I hardly ever de-rep and i never abuse the de-rep function.
Even tho derepping is of no real benefit for me. i feel as if the SRL-Member status is getting degraded. why do we all have to loose functionality just because some chumps abused it. Couldn't you just disable the derep function on those SRL-Member accounts who actually have abused it? Hate to say it but whoever disabled rep for SRL Members and below and below is Stereotyping.
Rant over.

Orrrrr they could give us one more chance, and if someone abuses it it's auto suspension?

If I remember the rules, reputation abuse is still an infractable offence, correct? So why not just infract those who abuse it instead of punishing a group who the majority of which did not break a rule?

That being said, there is not a whole lot of purpose to negative rep, but it is a fast way to bring someone's attention to something that they should not have done. Although I still think that this was not an appropriate response.

I suppose I'll just need to send somebody a PM if I think that they should be behaving in a more positive manner :)

From: Officer Barbrady
Orrrrr they could give us one more chance, and if someone abuses it it's auto suspension?

Pretty much what i was hinting at. sorry if you didn't get the gist.

From: Flight
I don't know man, I've seen some very interesting threads from years ago with discussion of some original, very clever ideas. The 3D MS mapping engine, computer vision that Ben was working on, SKy scripter's canny core, some smart auto-responders (but that's in the higher up boards), old methods of accurately solving random events. Many of these can still be further developed but 99% of the community will never find them. :(

That's why I said we usually won't mind bumping a question or big thread when it died. I just don't see a button being any better than a post.

From: Kasi
Give -SRL-Members the ability to de-rep again. Why am i classed as a SRL-Member who abuses rep? check my history if you can, I hardly ever de-rep and i never abuse the de-rep function.
Even tho derepping is of no real benefit for me. i feel as if the SRL-Member status is getting degraded. why do we all have to loose functionality just because some chumps abused it. Couldn't you just disable the derep function on those SRL-Member accounts who actually have abused it? Hate to say it but whoever disabled rep for SRL Members and below is Stereotyping.
Rant over.

Bringing back de-repping won't happen. Often the comments were offensive, but even without the abuse. What good could it bring. Have you ever de-repped someone with the a constructive motive? Probably not. De-repping can only make things worse. We should try to be community of scripters and friends, as equals, what can we say about each other? Let's just keep the reputation system as tool to encourage each other! As a pat on the shoulder as wel as an visible stat proving people acknowledged you.

BTW the abuse group was pretty big, and only growing. No one felt like dealing with it.

From: masterBB

Bringing back de-repping won't happen. Often the comments were offensive, but even without the abuse. What good could it bring. Have you ever de-repped someone with the a constructive motive? Probably not. De-repping can only make things worse. We should try to be community of scripters and friends, as equals, what can we say about each other? Let's just keep the reputation system as tool to encourage each other! As a pat on the shoulder as wel as an visible stat proving people acknowledged you.

BTW the abuse group was pretty big, and only growing. No one felt like dealing with it.

Maybe it won't be back. but its what i'd like to see. i have alot of opinions on what you have said.

I have never de-repped with a constructive motive. This is because generally people don't take negative rep nicely. if i wanted to be constructive i'd post on the thread about how they can improve themselves or even go as far to PM them, this way they don't feel like they've lost out essentially degrading their confidence. The only time i ever give negative rep is when i find offensive posts or i see posts other people might find offensive. As i have said before i hardly ever de-rep. This forum is quite quick to distinguish the troublemakers from the people who are generally just trying to learn / be constructive, and when a troublemaker is found they don't stick around as they get ban or some other type of punishment is handed out. Without de-rep how do people realize who to watch out for? i generally look at the rep balls on newer users. this was i can gather a quick trait / personality.

You say de-repping CAN make things worse. yeah, i agree, it can. but this is the same as everything else in life.

You talk about equality, but you fail to realize it was only SRL-Members and below that got the de-repping functionality disabled. How is this equality? if your saying its bad, why doesn't it get disabled for everyone?

Yeah it may have been a big group but not as big as all SRL-Members and below. You can't say noone felt like dealing with it. People hand out ban's frequently enough, how hard can it be to hand out ban's to people who abuse rep? This way the group that was growing would eventually stop. at the moment what happened was you skipped all the steps in between. the action that was taken wasn't suited to what was happening.

From: BMWxi
Could you make it require to be logged into a Villavu account that has certain (low) requirements? They'd have to be low enough that it wouldn't deter actual users though.

Yes and no. We used a plugin so that the login to the wiki used the vB login system. However it appears that this only hid the wiki's registration/login system rather than actually disabling it. So we would have to look at how to fully disable the wiki's registration system to stop the spambots.

From: BMWxi
If I remember the rules, reputation abuse is still an infractable offence, correct? So why not just infract those who abuse it instead of punishing a group who the majority of which did not break a rule?

From: Kasi
Yeah it may have been a big group but not as big as all SRL-Members and below. You can't say noone felt like dealing with it. People hand out ban's frequently enough, how hard can it be to hand out ban's to people who abuse rep? This way the group that was growing would eventually stop. at the moment what happened was you skipped all the steps in between. the action that was taken wasn't suited to what was happening.

Do you honestly think we have not tried that? Warnings, infractions, personal conversations trying to resolve issues, bans. We have done it all and used up hours of our time dealing with the immaturity of people who obviously cannot handle the ability to take away a few ultimately meaningless internet rep points. So what else is there to do if none of the above works? The only thing is to take it away, and that is what we have done.

That being said, we as the staff will consider your suggestions of taking derep away from everyone and not just people below SSRL. But heed my advice, the way you went about addressing this situation was terrible and is not how you get things done. Whenever I see threads and polls of people petitioning or demanding things from the staff, it pisses me off more than you can imagine and if you want things from me, pissing me off is not a good way to go about it. Let me leave you all with a quote from the rules thread as a reminder.

Any disagreement with a staff member's decision is to be resolved through the use of the PM system. Any public disputes are to be avoided and are infractable at the staff’s discretion. You have no rights and are entitled to nothing.

Note: The last paragraph was a generalized statement not aimed at any specific person. It also did not mean all polls are bad, merely the ones presented in an aggressive fashion to try and force the staff to do something.

From: Hobbit

That being said, we as the staff will consider your suggestion of taking derep away from everyone and not just people below SSRL. But head my advice, the way you went about addressing this situation was terrible and is not how you get things done. Whenever I see threads and polls of people petitioning or demanding things from the staff, it pisses me off more than you can imagine and if you want things from me, pissing me off it not a good way to go about it. Let me leave you all with a quote from the rules thread as a reminder.

I'm sorry that you appear to have misinterpreted my poll. It was not intended as a petition or a demand, merely a way to find out what people thought of an idea. Participation in the poll is optional, and I am by no means demanding that the results of the poll have any sort of rule changing authority.

From: Hobbit

Do you honestly think we have not tried that? Warnings, infractions, personal conversations trying to resolve issues, bans. We have done it all and used up hours of our time dealing with the immaturity of people who obviously cannot handle the ability to take away a few ultimately meaningless internet rep points. So what else is there to do if none of the above works? The only thing is to take it away, and that is what we have done.

That being said, we as the staff will consider your suggestion of taking derep away from everyone and not just people below SSRL. But heed my advice, the way you went about addressing this situation was terrible and is not how you get things done. Whenever I see threads and polls of people petitioning or demanding things from the staff, it pisses me off more than you can imagine and if you want things from me, pissing me off is not a good way to go about it. Let me leave you all with a quote from the rules thread as a reminder.

I have no evidence of you Banning people who abused rep. I didnt even know that Rep abusing was an issue until negative rep was disabled. Didnt know anyone actually got their negative rep abilities disabled until yesterday. When SRL-Members below got it disabled.

Regarding how i addressed the situation, What did i do wrong. I'm not trying to get in your bad books but was i the one who made the threads? was i the one who made the polls? do you have any sort of evidence to class me as the person who made the threads + polls? i'm not in any sort of group who is petitioning nor am i demanding anything. I simply have views which other people relate to so i post them, All my reasoning is purely my opinion.if there's anything at all wrong with that then find the post and infract me with a relevant and suitable reason. again i have no intention of "Pissing" you off. I am not this forum. Don't class me as whoever made the threads / polls.

From: Kasi
I have no evidence of you Banning people who abused rep. I didnt even know that Rep abusing was an issue until negative rep was disabled. Didnt know anyone actually got their negative rep abilities disabled until yesterday. When SRL-Members below got it disabled.

Then we obviously were doing our jobs correctly. However, the problem had grown big enough and affected a large enough amount of people to warrant the disabling of the derep function.

From: Kasi
Regarding how i addressed the situation, What did i do wrong. I'm not trying to get in your bad books but was i the one who made the threads? was i the one who made the polls? do you have any sort of evidence to class me as the person who made the threads + polls? i'm not in any sort of group who is petitioning nor am i demanding anything. I simply have views which other people relate to so i post them, All my reasoning is purely my opinion.if there's anything at all wrong with that then find the post and infract me with a relevant and suitable reason. again i have no intention of "Pissing" you off. I am not this forum. Don't class me as whoever made the threads / polls.

As added by a note in my previous post, that last paragraph was a generalized statement not directed at any single person. The people who it was addressing know who they are, and if you think it was addressing you, then thats your own conscience and not me because I used no names :)

I'm pretty sure me and sin were banned for like a week a year ago because he sucks at scripting and I called him out for it and then we got into a rep battle

From: Hobbit
Then we obviously were doing our jobs correctly. However, the problem had grown big enough and affected a large enough amount of people to warrant the disabling of the derep function.

As added by a note in my previous post, that last paragraph was a generalized statement not directed at any single person. The people who it was addressing know who they are, and if you think it was addressing you, then thats your own conscience and not me because I used no names :)

Fair enough, i didn't know that if someone got banned then the reasoning behind it stayed anonymous. I just thought no real action was taken as i lurk on skype and some of the main negative rep abusers didn't get ban or anything.

and ah okay. didn't realize you were talking to us as a group. My mistake, i thought it was directed at me considering it started of with my suggestion. My bad.

Maybe someone should open another thread? i feel as if were hijacking this thread with this topic?
Edit: didn't double post. People deleted comments.

http://i.imgur.com/YEd6mQF.png

From: Hobbit

That being said, we as the staff will consider your suggestions of taking derep away from everyone and not just people below SSRL. But heed my advice, the way you went about addressing this situation was terrible and is not how you get things done. Whenever I see threads and polls of people petitioning or demanding things from the staff, it pisses me off more than you can imagine and if you want things from me, pissing me off is not a good way to go about it. Let me leave you all with a quote from the rules thread as a reminder.

Personally, I support every word in this quote. As I view it, the privilege of this community is to be approached with the most kindness of care and respect. I'll conclude, as I wish to not derail the topic.

But to help myself stay on topic, I support the request from @Brandon earlier, stating:

From: Brandon
I want this:


I really want that! I want to click <3 likes on all Janilabo's posts ;)
Seriously, we should really have that.

Once we get the bug tracker up and running and look into restoring the wiki I will look into post liking.

From: Hobbit
Once we get the bug tracker up and running and look into restoring the wiki I will look into post liking.

If it goes ahead, do you think this would this replace, or be in addition to the current rep system?

From: Rich
If it goes ahead, do you think this would this replace, or be in addition to the current rep system?

Meh I hope not then it would just be like a facebook with a like counting system (I like the idea just don't like the idea of it replacing the rep system)

From: Officer Barbrady
Meh I hope not then it would just be like a facebook with a like counting system (I like the idea just don't like the idea of it replacing the rep system)

Maybe it can be made like, if someone likes your post it gives you rep too, the only difference is that you can see who liked the post.

From: hoodz
Maybe it can be made like, if someone likes your post it gives you rep too, the only difference is that you can see who liked the post.

Yea then it would be facebook with a like counter -.-

From: Officer Barbrady
Yea then it would be facebook with a like counter -.-

Maybe they can add the name of the user just with the current rep system (you can only see that personally) because now i get everytime a rep with like: nice script! But i dont know from who i got that.

From: hoodz
Maybe they can add the name of the user just with the current rep system (you can only see that personally) because now i get everytime a rep with like: nice script! But i dont know from who i got that.

That shouldn't be hard to add, many other Vbulletin forums have that.

Yes and no. We used a plugin so that the login to the wiki used the vB login system. However it appears that this only hid the wiki's registration/login system rather than actually disabling it. So we would have to look at how to fully disable the wiki's registration system to stop the spambots.

I have a private wiki I use, and it has registration disabled, I used the following tutorial:
http://23rdworld.com/2007/03/30/how-to-make-your-mediawiki-private/

Which I just realized is from 2007 :surprised:, but it worked for me.

A better IRC client.

From: Officer Barbrady
A better IRC client.

Theres plenty out there. mIRC, X-Chat, KVIrc just to name a few

From: Justin
Theres plenty out there. mIRC, X-Chat, KVIrc just to name a few

I meant in the webchat I can't figure any of those out lol

From: Officer Barbrady
I can't figure any of those out lol

http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66101

Runescape private server and non runescape scripts outdated sections :)

From: Ashaman88
Runescape private server and non runescape scripts outdated sections :)

Wow, thought it was going to be a 5 min job. Took 30. :p

Let me know if there are any issues. :)

From: Coh3n
Wow, thought it was going to be a 5 min job. Took 30. :p

Let me know if there are any issues. :)

Can you add a requests section too :) people always post their requests in the non-runescape scripts section or the Runescape private server script section because theres no other place :/

From: Officer Barbrady
Can you add a requests section too :) people always post their requests in the non-runescape scripts section or the Runescape private server script section because theres no other place :/

There you go. Let me know if you need some threads moved.

From: Coh3n
Wow, thought it was going to be a 5 min job. Took 30. :p

Let me know if there are any issues. :)

Woot thanks :)

With the coming of reflection for Oldschool Rs, can we possibly get some guides going for reflection usage in simba?.

There is plenty of posts now that showcase the usage of reflection, but there isn't any detailed guide that takes its time to comment on each line of the script explaining what everything stands for and what everything does on every single line/step of the way.

This isn't site related or any request to add anything. Just don't know where to post it, been waiting for days for a guide to pop up so i can start using reflection, and so far there has been nothing :(.

From: samerdl
With the coming of reflection for Oldschool Rs, can we possibly get some guides going for reflection usage in simba?.

There is plenty of posts now that showcase the usage of reflection, but there isn't any detailed guide that takes its time to comment on each line of the script explaining what everything stands for and what everything does on every single line/step of the way.

This isn't site related or any request to add anything. Just don't know where to post it, been waiting for days for a guide to pop up so i can start using reflection, and so far there has been nothing :(.

While reflection is available, there are no hook updaters (except for player info I think?), meaning you would manually need to grab new hooks for every activity every update. As that's kind of a pain, people are working on getting updaters in place to fix that issue first and then you will likely start seeing guides and reflection scripts.

From: Kevin
While reflection is available, there are no hook updaters (except for player info I think?), meaning you would manually need to grab new hooks for every activity every update. As that's kind of a pain, people are working on getting updaters in place to fix that issue first and then you will likely start seeing guides and reflection scripts.

Excellent, would love to help with that but i dont know anything about java

@Daniel

Maybe in the scripting help section, there can be a button next to each reply saying "Mark answer solved" and at the top of the thread it would quote the post of the post that was marked solved, and also change the title to (Question solved) + threadtitle

From: Officer Barbrady
@Daniel

Maybe in the scripting help section, there can be a button next to each reply saying "Mark answer solved" and at the top of the thread it would quote the post of the post that was marked solved, and also change the title to (Question solved) + threadtitle

I believe this would require a plugin. I'll notify @Hobbit; and @Wizzup?; to this suggestion.

From: Daniel
I believe this would require a plugin.

Yes, it would :)

@Daniel; I added a "Resolved" prefix to the Scripting Help section the other day, so that can be used for now. A plugin like that would be handy, though, and not just for the Scripting Help section.

Multiquote post? not really needed, just a suggestion.

From: Coh3n
@Daniel; I added a "Resolved" prefix to the Scripting Help section the other day, so that can be used for now. A plugin like that would be handy, though, and not just for the Scripting Help section.

@Hobbit; is already looking at a plugin :)

From: Sjoe
Multiquote post? not really needed, just a suggestion.

You mean the button to the right of "Reply With Quote"?

From: Daniel
@Hobbit; is already looking at a plugin :)

woot woot. The current fix is alright but it probably won't be used a lot by noobs because they will forget to edit :D


Also this section: http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=179 is like 90% help threads lol people always seem to miss the "SMART questions and answers" category (unless it's not for help in which case we need a smart help section :s )

From: Coh3n
You mean the button to the right of "Reply With Quote"?

Ok I never saw that feature :p haha

Thanks for pointing it out.

We should be able to edit the title of our own threads in the script section

From: Officer Barbrady
We should be able to edit the title of our own threads in the script section

As far as I'm aware, you can? Have you tried using the 'Advanced Edit' feature when editing the post? (you should be able to change the title from within there)

From: Daniel
As far as I'm aware, you can? Have you tried using the 'Advanced Edit' feature when editing the post? (you should be able to change the title from within there)

nope, not unless it has been changed recently. http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99682

From: tealc
nope, not unless it has been changed recently. http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99682

Ah, well, there's your answer:

From: Hobbit
Even if I wanted to give that permission out (which I don't) its built into the moderator rank and I can't set set that per usergroup (just checked)

Silly vBulletin..

From: Daniel
Ah, well, there's your answer:


Silly vBulletin..

Ahh well thanks for trying

Add a divination section to all the EOC script sections

i know that there is a bit of a pause at the moment in that we are waiting for SRL-6 and the script section for RS3 is pretty much empty but i feel that a little more activity needs to be pumped into the forum in order for it to continue. obviously i am still new around here and haven't actually been around for the last few weeks due to work, but i would still really like to see it pick up.

when looking at the new posts, i can see back over 24hrs on the first page :/

maybe a way to do this would be through more competitions and trying to involve people more in development. for example hold a competition in which people must design there own method(s) to re-organise the RS3 GUI into a bot friendly arrangement … and/or other required segments of code, not only will people get involved but with how ever many peoples individual answers to the problem, we should end up with a rather eloquent solution (i would hope :p ).

i definitely feel that a key feature of this forum is the teaching that happens and peoples willingness to learn. i have really enjoyed my short time on this forum and would love to see the activity pick up!

From: EngageTheRage
i know that there is a bit of a pause at the moment in that we are waiting for SRL-6 and the script section for RS3 is pretty much empty but i feel that a little more activity needs to be pumped into the forum in order for it to continue. obviously i am still new around here and haven't actually been around for the last few weeks due to work, but i would still really like to see it pick up.

when looking at the new posts, i can see back over 24hrs on the first page :/

maybe a way to do this would be through more competitions and trying to involve people more in development. for example hold a competition in which people must design there own method(s) to re-organise the RS3 GUI into a bot friendly arrangement … and/or other required segments of code, not only will people get involved but with how ever many peoples individual answers to the problem, we should end up with a rather eloquent solution (i would hope :p ).

i definitely feel that a key feature of this forum is the teaching that happens and peoples willingness to learn. i have really enjoyed my short time on this forum and would love to see the activity pick up!

That's a neat idea. :) But I really think things will pick up with SRL-6 is released (which is going to be really soon :)).

From: Coh3n
That's a neat idea. :) But I really think things will pick up with SRL-6 is released (which is going to be really soon :)).

Yeah once SRL-6 is released things will pick up for sure.

@Daniel

Currently to my knowledge when somebody reports a post, a thread is made in the mod section or whatever containing the report. Anyway, sometimes after I report maybe a spammer (because I think it's just a spam post) I see another spam post by that person and find that the person is still spamming or a spambot. This means that I will have to report them again and create another thread with that report(if it's important enough). Sometimes I don't want to report another post just because I don't want to create another thread but there is the possibility that the mod/mods may overlook other spam posts if any. Maybe when a person reports something, they can view just their report thread much like the member application process. This way they can add/edit the thread about the incident instead of spamming up the section. And of source handled reports could be moved to the archive were you could no longer see them(unlike Member apps)

From: Officer Barbrady
@Daniel

Currently to my knowledge when somebody reports a post, a thread is made in the mod section or whatever containing the report. Anyway, sometimes after I report maybe a spammer (because I think it's just a spam post) I see another spam post by that person and find that the person is still spamming or a spambot. This means that I will have to report them again and create another thread with that report(if it's important enough). Sometimes I don't want to report another post just because I don't want to create another thread but there is the possibility that the mod/mods may overlook other spam posts if any.

Just report each individual post that you think is spam. If you state something along the lines of "this user has been spamming non-stop for the past 2 hours", or "this user has made the same thread in ten different places", then that will prompt us to look into their post history and delete any irrelevant thread/posts. If it is clear that a user is a spam bot, then you need only report once. :)

From: Officer Barbrady

Maybe when a person reports something, they can view just their report thread much like the member application process. This way they can add/edit the thread about the incident instead of spamming up the section. And of source handled reports could be moved to the archive were you could no longer see them(unlike Member apps)

That is unlikely to happen.

i guide for setup

From: leeds4eva
i guide for setup

There are plenty.

From: Kyle Undefined
There are plenty.

not for the new oldschool set up.

I want to see IRC operators whom are fair!

From: Rubix
I want to see IRC operators who are fair!

I agree! If you knew the things Benji made me do in private… *shudders*

I should like to see a very clear delineation in the forums concerning RS3, OSRS, and PSRS. No mixing of the threads. As I've stated elsewhere, I personally have no interest in anything other than RS3, but I have to wade through posts concerning OSRS and PSRS to get to the information I need. Not sure if others are of the same mind or not.

From: Jason2gs
I agree! If you knew the things Benji made me do in private… *shudders*

It's completely obscene what goes on with the IRC operators!

From: loragnor
I should like to see a very clear delineation in the forums concerning RS3, OSRS, and PSRS. No mixing of the threads. As I've stated elsewhere, I personally have no interest in anything other than RS3, but I have to wade through posts concerning OSRS and PSRS to get to the information I need. Not sure if others are of the same mind or not.

The only time I see 07 things is villavu.com/forum/vaispy.php (Although admittedly that's where I see almost everything unless I'm looking for something specific)

I'm not sure if it's possible for the admins to allow you to filter the feed from different sections, but it it's possible I'd be down for it.

Are there any sections right now that have both 07 and RS3 topics?

@Daniel

Is to too much to ask for a help subsection? http://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=511 :) Sometimes people post help threads there for RSPS's and it's RSPS specific

Hey everyone. i just joined and I'm so thankful you guys made these program. Maybe now RS players can have girlfriends lol. Thanks alot…
BTW I Cant find the download for smart on Old RS. I tried going to click on the tutorial link

but couldn't find the down load. Sorry very Noobish but I pick things up quickly

Thanks GL scripting

I honestly would like more traffic along with more active members & in order to make this possible, we must introduce something new that will attract newcomers. Hopefully we can get something going!

Long Live SRL!
-Cheers

I'm having tons of problems dowloading and installing using the tutorials guides for old runescape. Can find download buttons. Simba straight failes to open smart 3.3. I can find MSI. Pretty dang frustrated to be honest. If smart or MSI could just open I'm pretty sure i can figure out how to add scripts. Guess I'm gonna have to grind RS for a little longer. Motivates me to learn how to script even more so rs players can actually enjoy this game.

From: P1nky
I honestly would like more traffic along with more active members & in order to make this possible, we must introduce something new that will attract newcomers. Hopefully we can get something going!

Long Live SRL!
-Cheers

I love this attitude. Hurry up and finish with your finals P1nky, I want to see some OSR scripts!

From: Flight
I love this attitude. Hurry up and finish with your finals P1nky, I want to see some OSR scripts!

Will do, Sir!

From: Flight
I love this attitude. Hurry up and finish with your finals P1nky, I want to see some OSR scripts!

From: P1nky
Will do, Sir!

i think we can get more people if we have a flawless random solver.

From: hoodz
i think we can get more people if we have a flawless random solver.

I more than agree but you failed to read OP ;)

From: Daniel

Please NOTE: This is purely for the website and not for Simba/SRL-related development.

;)


However I'd like to see "tutorial island" come back or atleast make the tutorials easier to find. We're meant to be a community about learning but even I struggle to find tutorials at times.

From: The Killer
I more than agree but you failed to read OP ;)

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From: P1nky
I honestly would like more traffic along with more active members
-Cheers

it was more like a fail quote, it was a response to this too :p ^

I honestly would like more traffic along with more active members & in order to make this possible, we must introduce something new that will attract newcomers. Hopefully we can get something going!

Long Live SRL!
-Cheers

Using the forums has been a real challenge navigating between new and old post made by others and one self. I think more ppl would be active if navigating wasn't so hard. My first impression of navigation was to weed out the leechers and noobs. I guess in that way job well done.

However I'm starting to get the hang of it. Been using advanced search ever since. Very helpful and so was the forum search tutorial.

We should hire an Indian call center to help new comers so they don't flood the irc with stupid questions that obviously show they didnt read a damned thing on the forum. I bet we can get one for like $1/week or close to it.

From: Rubix
We should hire an Indian call center to help new comers so they don't flood the irc with stupid questions that obviously show they didnt read a damned thing on the forum. I bet we can get one for like $1/week or close to it.

+10.

i know @YoHoJo is indian and is always looking for money, so why not ask him?

From: Rubix
We should hire an Indian call center to help new comers so they don't flood the irc with stupid questions that obviously show they didnt read a damned thing on the forum. I bet we can get one for like $1/week or close to it.

From: Turpinator
+10.

i know @YoHoJo is indian and is always looking for money, so why not ask him?

i agree +1

good initiative

Might have been already stated but i dont have time to read through… i dont like this "10 post before being able to send a pm" stuff and how its not registering that i have these 10 posts. which i do now… maybe not change it but a good reason why its in place. i just needed some help from this guy about the scripts and i just posted 10 random things so i could send it. i dont see what the harm is in letting people talk in private… if anything it should be 10 pm's before your allowed to post lol.

From: shanelench8
Might have been already stated but i dont have time to read through… i dont like this "10 post before being able to send a pm" stuff and how its not registering that i have these 10 posts. which i do now… maybe not change it but a good reason why its in place. i just needed some help from this guy about the scripts and i just posted 10 random things so i could send it. i dont see what the harm is in letting people talk in private… if anything it should be 10 pm's before your allowed to post lol.

Stuff like that is in place to prevent spam. You'd be surprised at how much spam is sent through PMs.

From: Coh3n
Stuff like that is in place to prevent spam. You'd be surprised at how much spam is sent through PMs.

well now i spammed some random post and got yelled at by some guy whatevs doe :garfield:

I would like to see a change in grumpiness of the mass population… it makes me sad :(

Public Scripts & OSR Scripts Categories are a pretty good idea i like it Keep up the good work with these forums.

I like it a lot better than the old layout. I've spent some time on countless forums, and this is top 3.

A even whiter and brighter theme on the website along with puppies! Terrier puppies! [ATTACH=CONFIG]22912[/ATTACH]

From: Sirenia
A even whiter and brighter theme on the website along with puppies! Terrier puppies! [ATTACH=CONFIG]22912[/ATTACH]

You can change the theme in the bottom left of the page.

From: Coh3n
You can change the theme in the bottom left of the page.

Not bright enough, with the current theme I can only use my laptop as a pocket lamp, I wish to put it in the ceiling and use it as a ceiling lamp while browsing the forums :c.

From: Sirenia
Not bright enough, with the current theme I can only use my laptop as a pocket lamp, I wish to put it in the ceiling and use it as a ceiling lamp while browsing the forums :c.

Hmm that's quite the predicament. Have you increased the brightness on your laptop as much as possible?

From: Coh3n
Hmm that's quite the predicament. Have you increased the brightness on your laptop as much as possible?

Hmm thats a great suggestion, I will consider testing it out when it gets dark in the evening today. I however would recommend making the blue bars on the webstie theme white-grayish for further brighness!

i a newby n i like it - love it actually lol

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Been a long time, new thread yay. Something I'd like to see since I didn't see it suggested.. Flog the people posting RS scripts (first scripts) in the non-runescape thread. Maybe also migrate them somewhere appropriate. Sounds like work, so I'd understand if it didn't happen. lol

Hi guys this is me Laurie! This is my first post here. I just join this forum and here I want to know about the proper use of this forum. I hope this forum will be quite informative and good for learning.

I believe you should greatly reduce the number of sub forums.. There are too many and nobody posts in half of them. Just make extremely broad topics and put everything in there. For example.
Guides
Help
SRL (two small sub categories which are not the same size as SRL, OSRS and RS3)
General
Scripts
Etc

Somebody needs to fix the satellite theme :( http://puu.sh/99NGn/499f3588f7.png

From: Rubix
Somebody needs to fix the satellite theme :( http://puu.sh/99NGn/499f3588f7.png

What about the indian help center? If we had one of those, they could just fix it for us!

Wait! i know!

From: Turpinator

i know @YoHoJo is indian and is always looking for money, so why not ask him?

Possibly an archive sub-forum for script requests? or something to help organize the requests

i would appreciate one definitive guide for setting up simba for osrs

I will admit I haven't searched the thread to see if this has been asked before, but would it be possible to add "Mark forums read" to the "Quick Links" drop down menu? Would make it easier IMO.

From: Solar
I will admit I haven't searched the thread to see if this has been asked before, but would it be possible to add "Mark forums read" to the "Quick Links" drop down menu? Would make it easier IMO.

As in mark ALL forums as read?

From: Coh3n
As in mark ALL forums as read?

Yes that would be a really nice feature.

From: Coh3n
As in mark ALL forums as read?

Yeah, just to save people having to go all the way to the bottom of the home page to do the same thing.

Okay, I'll see what I can do after work.

E: Alright I've added it to the quick links. Can someone check to see if it works? I don't want to mark all my forums as read. :p

@Solar; @NKN;

From: Coh3n
Okay, I'll see what I can do after work.

E: Alright I've added it to the quick links. Can someone check to see if it works? I don't want to mark all my forums as read. :p

@Solar; @NKN;

I don't see the option

From: BMWxi
I don't see the option

OH those quick links! I thought you guys meant the ones on the main forum page. I'll see if I can edit those (I'm not sure I can).

From: Coh3n
OH those quick links! I thought you guys meant the ones on the main forum page. I'll see if I can edit those (I'm not sure I can).

I tried the button on the main forum page and received this:

From: BMWxi
I tried the button on the main forum page and received this:

Okay thanks. I'll look more into the Quick Links your guys were talking about.

This is mine

From: The Mayor
This is mine

Yeah, I know what you mean now. I don't think I can directly edit those options. I'll do some more research, though.

Still would like to see it done as I first imagined, although having an option in the top section of the main page would be a good alternative.

I just want to make sure you guys are aware that there is a "Mark Forums Read" button at the bottom of every page. From what I've found, there's no easy way to edit the Quick Links menu. We'd have to go in a manually edit the PHP templates.

From: Coh3n
I just want to make sure you guys are aware that there is a "Mark Forums Read" button at the bottom of every page. From what I've found, there's no easy way to edit the Quick Links menu. We'd have to go in a manually edit the PHP templates.

Yeah I know about that button at the bottom. :(
What about that alternative that you thought we meant before?

From: Solar
Yeah I know about that button at the bottom. :(
What about that alternative that you thought we meant before?

Turns out that doesn't work. I can't just copy the link and use it somewhere else. That's something I have no control over, unfortunately. You'll just have to scroll to the bottom, sorry!

Can we add script sections in the JR section as it is in the public section?
It's starting to get pretty cluttered.

From: RlagkRud
It's starting to get pretty cluttered.

It isn't really.

From: Daniel
It isn't really.

Okay

From: RlagkRud
Okay

Yeah, I'm gonna agree with Daniel there. The entirety of the forum fitting into a third of my screen isn't very cluttered - especially considering a full reorg into all the sections would make it significantly larger than it currently is.

I have no idea if this has been asked already (a quick CTRL + F search of each page for "dark" found nothing), but why is there no dark colour style for the forum? I can't imagine that I'm the only one who uses the Internet in a dark room at night, and the light-on-white colour style really hurts the eyes.

Is it a lack of time to install one on behalf of the Admins, or is it intentional?

From: Incurable
I have no idea if this has been asked already (a quick CTRL + F search of each page for "dark" found nothing), but why is there no dark colour style for the forum? I can't imagine that I'm the only one who uses the Internet in a dark room at night, and the light-on-white colour style really hurts the eyes.

Is it a lack of time to install one on behalf of the Admins, or is it intentional?

Why don't you just turn your brightness down? I always do that when I'm in a dark room at night.

From: sparkyownage
Why don't you just turn your brightness down? I always do that when I'm in a dark room at night.

This but also a darker theme would be nice :)

From: Ashaman88
This but also a darker theme would be nice :)

I agree, it would be nice :)

From: Ashaman88
This but also a darker theme would be nice :)

The brightness on both of my monitors is permanently down to the minimum, and I use f.lux on top of that (funnily enough, I just posted a thread about it in the tech section), but it's still not enough. Going from a dark themed website/application to a bright one is still really jarring and hurts my eyes for a while before they properly adjust (and even then it's not great). I use Social Fixer just to get a dark theme for Facebook, lol.

I'm not sure how difficult it is to add a new theme; I can't imagine it's too hard. I'll look into it. :) E: Actually, @core; and @Hobbit; will know a lot more about this than me.

That's awesome! Glad to hear it. :D

link simba to your villavu account so you need to sign in using your villavu account on simba, prevent unwanted leechers, if someone mass downloaded all of the scripts and never went back on villavu or contribute, this would help to prevent this! they would need to sign in using their villavu account and if they didnt have an account for whatever reason, got deleted or whatever than they wont be able to access villavu or any of the scripts! makes sense?

From: blindout
link simba to your villavu account so you need to sign in using your villavu account on simba, prevent unwanted leechers, if someone mass downloaded all of the scripts and never went back on villavu or contribute, this would help to prevent this! they would need to sign in using their villavu account and if they didnt have an account for whatever reason, got deleted or whatever than they wont be able to access villavu or any of the scripts! makes sense?

That's why some scripts are kept in the higher boards so you have to contribute before you get access to them.

From: The Mayor
That's why some scripts are kept in the higher boards so you have to contribute before you get access to them.

oh isee well ill be sure to do that than! thanks for the information!

From: Coh3n
I'm not sure how difficult it is to add a new theme; I can't imagine it's too hard. I'll look into it. :) E: Actually, @core; and @Hobbit; will know a lot more about this than me.

Update on the dark theme?

Jason2gs (Rivky) Keeps kicking me in the IRC channel for no reason at all. Just kicks me and that's it. Unfair ops.

Example A: http://puu.sh/bXN4w.jpg

So, how about that dark theme? ;)

I was wondering would it be possible to make the search option more easily accessible, it caused some difficulty at first until I could locate it. I think this might help people that are looking for specific scripting advice that was previously posted.

From: Yuskie
I was wondering would it be possible to make the search option more easily accessible, it caused some difficulty at first until I could locate it. I think this might help people that are looking for specific scripting advice that was previously posted.

I've found the forum search to be so bad that it's much easier to do a google search of

site:villavu.com the thing you want to find

From: BMWxi
I've found the forum search to be so bad that it's much easier to do a google search of

site:villavu.com the thing you want to find

The problem is that google only brings the pages as if they were archived. When they're pictures and stuff it's a bitch :3

From: Yuskie
The problem is that google only brings the pages as if they were archived. When they're pictures and stuff it's a bitch :3

There should be a link somewhere on the archive pages that take you to the full version

From: BMWxi
There should be a link somewhere on the archive pages that take you to the full version

touche

18+ area ;)

MENTORS

A way for people learning to contact experienced members in a non-soliciting manner OUTSIDE of PM's would be nice. The tutorials are well constructed and there are sub forums for 'First Scripts' and 'Help' but I still feel as though I would learn a lot more being able to bounce small questions and code snippets off of someone who I have an easy way to get in touch with. This streamlined form of communication will be great for generating focused dialog and minimizing the answer time for someone that really cares about learning. This WOULD NOT be for giving someone lessons or dedicated hours of their day.

Maybe create a sub-forum in the help section where SRL Members can post threads accepting applications from those seeking a "mentor". From those applications they can choose however many people they want and then give those few a direct line of communication such as Skype.

It is just a little cleaner than sending people PM's asking for help, posting in the chat and having to get one answer at a time, or posting in the help section and getting few replies. I just find it extremely frustrating while I am trying to learn.

From: Fredecus
MENTORS

A way for people learning to contact experienced members in a non-soliciting manner OUTSIDE of PM's would be nice. The tutorials are well constructed and there are sub forums for 'First Scripts' and 'Help' but I still feel as though I would learn a lot more being able to bounce small questions and code snippets off of someone who I have an easy way to get in touch with. This streamlined form of communication will be great for generating focused dialog and minimizing the answer time for someone that really cares about learning. This WOULD NOT be for giving someone lessons or dedicated hours of their day.

Maybe create a sub-forum in the help section where SRL Members can post threads accepting applications from those seeking a "mentor". From those applications they can choose however many people they want and then give those few a direct line of communication such as Skype.

It is just a little cleaner than sending people PM's asking for help, posting in the chat and having to get one answer at a time, or posting in the help section and getting few replies. I just find it extremely frustrating while I am trying to learn.

I try to make myself available for small answers and whatnot like you've asked, but I have a full time job and a life outside of SRL and work, so I could never make the time commitment to be a full mentor. I generally linger on IRC (Garrett) while at work and can answer questions if you highlight me. The easiest way to reach me though is almost definitely PM, as it lets me answer when I have the time.

Any urgent questions, the best thing to do is go on IRC and ask (and be patient waiting for an answer). Lots of people are helpful there as long as you don't ask how to avoid being banned or how to set up your RS settings, which happens way too often.

I am thinking of something a little more personal and organized than the IRC and faster than PM. Also, This is not something where you need to dedicate specific amounts of time to. Maybe it is a 5 minute conversation on Skype when you are online. I work a full time job at a game developer and am working roughly 60 hours a week while taking 14 hours of classes so I absolutely understand the time aspect.

From: Fredecus
I am thinking of something a little more personal and organized than the IRC and faster than PM. Also, This is not something where you need to dedicate specific amounts of time to. Maybe it is a 5 minute conversation on Skype when you are online. I work a full time job at a game developer and am working roughly 60 hours a week while taking 14 hours of classes so I absolutely understand the time aspect.

If you want to PM me your skype then I'll add you. I'm about to have a 2 week vacation from work so I'm sure I'll have much more time to help in the next two weeks. You seem like someone who would be good to teach, I'd like to help however I can.

I love this website. Ever since i registered.

From: AttilaBilly
I love this website. Ever since i registered.

I know right ! These guys are amazing, They're helping us for no cost at all. It's all about community.

"SRL University", a revamp of the tutorial / scripting sections that dives head first into the SRL Documentation. There are already some great tutorials covering basics; however, why not break the documentation down function by function conceptually? There seems to be so many great ways to implement code, so why not pick the minds in a more formal setting. Quizzes to keep in interesting and grading could be something to look at to keep people honest in their scripting. Just an idea I found interestingly cool.

From: Quentini
"SRL University", a revamp of the tutorial / scripting sections that dives head first into the SRL Documentation. There are already some great tutorials covering basics; however, why not break the documentation down function by function conceptually? There seems to be so many great ways to implement code, so why not pick the minds in a more formal setting. Quizzes to keep in interesting and grading could be something to look at to keep people honest in their scripting. Just an idea I found interestingly cool.

Really nice idea. I started scripting like two weeks ago. There are some really great guides. I must say I have a scripting background. But I do think that there are a lot more good ways for people to learn scripting. Also to motivate them. Quizzes, etc. are really great ways to motivate people to start scripting.

From: Quentini
"SRL University", a revamp of the tutorial / scripting sections that dives head first into the SRL Documentation. There are already some great tutorials covering basics; however, why not break the documentation down function by function conceptually? There seems to be so many great ways to implement code, so why not pick the minds in a more formal setting. Quizzes to keep in interesting and grading could be something to look at to keep people honest in their scripting. Just an idea I found interestingly cool.

From: Suikerwafel
Really nice idea. I started scripting like two weeks ago. There are some really great guides. I must say I have a scripting background. But I do think that there are a lot more good ways for people to learn scripting. Also to motivate them. Quizzes, etc. are really great ways to motivate people to start scripting.

Great idea. Better get started on writing the material for it!

Problem is time, something like that needs to be done by 'someone'.

From: masterBB
Problem is time, something like that needs to be done by 'someone'.

Not to mention a backend for it… yeah, there are plenty of free/open source ones (moodle and such), but… it would require hosting somewhere… and i doubt @wizzup; would consider hosting something on his servers that he didnt write himself.

and then someone (or someones) would have to put all of that stuff there. fun fun.

From: Turpinator
Not to mention a backend for it… yeah, there are plenty of free/open source ones (moodle and such), but… it would require hosting somewhere… and i doubt @wizzup; would consider hosting something on his servers that he didnt write himself.

and then someone (or someones) would have to put all of that stuff there. fun fun.

As for time, I would consider this to definitely be a group project, with its own moderation team? I wasn't actually meaning a brand new site or host, though that would be pretty neat. Possibly just a new forum section that is organized, updated and maintained differently than the tutorial section is now to provide a better learning track for future SRL members.

I really liked the grading that was done by Mayor's last competition and presumably for SRL membership. It sparked more motivation for me to figure out what I should be focusing on as I learn to script and go from beginner to intermediate script writing.

there needs to be a dark theme, the white is hurting my eyes.

From: Snorflake
there needs to be a dark theme, the white is hurting my eyes.

lower your screen brightness

We should have thank-you buttons for posts. There is an issue with people just posting on a thread about a script and saying "Well Done" when you are under a junior member….I think you all know what I'm referring too..This would alleviate the issue..

From: xqs_me
We should have thank-you buttons for posts. There is an issue with people just posting on a thread about a script and saying "Well Done" when you are under a junior member….I think you all know what I'm referring too..This would alleviate the issue..

Ah, you mean the reputation?

From: xqs_me
We should have thank-you buttons for posts. There is an issue with people just posting on a thread about a script and saying "Well Done" when you are under a junior member….I think you all know what I'm referring too..This would alleviate the issue..

From: Turpinator
Ah, you mean the reputation?

Not quite, it would show underneath that users post, who said thanks, more of a visually stimulating way to thank a post…

From: xqs_me
Not quite, it would show underneath that users post, who said thanks, more of a visually stimulating way to thank a post…

but all dem squares.

From: xqs_me
We should have thank-you buttons for posts. There is an issue with people just posting on a thread about a script and saying "Well Done" when you are under a junior member….I think you all know what I'm referring too..This would alleviate the issue..

It wouldn't alliterative the issue. Spammers gonna spam, because they know that they need 30 posts for Jr. Member.

Plus, as Turp said, dem squarez

From: KeepBotting
It wouldn't alliterative the issue. Spammers gonna spam, because they know that they need 30 posts for Jr. Member.

Plus, as Turp said, dem squarez

Lol it wouldn't have to take place of rep, there are thousands of forums with thank-you buttons for posts and + rep, and no i believe it wouldn't end spam but you would be able to give those that do spam, an option to say thanks, so that they couldn't use that as an excuse to spam..Meh it seems noone likes the idea, sorry :(

From: KeepBotting
alliterative

I had to look up what this meant and i still don't get it lol

From: xqs_me
Lol it wouldn't have to take place of rep, there are thousands of forums with thank-you buttons for posts and + rep, and no i believe it wouldn't end spam but you would be able to give those that do spam, an option to say thanks, so that they couldn't use that as an excuse to spam..Meh it seems noone likes the idea, sorry :(



I had to look up what this meant and i still don't get it lol

I tried to type "alleviate" but I was abducted by aliens before I could complete the word

I would love to see a "Newest Thread" tab for the top 5 stats bar at the bottom of the page… Help us nosy people out :p
(Newest as in newest started thread, not most recent thread to be posted on.)

@Daniel; @Coh3n; @Hobbit; snippet section for reflection section

From: Robert
@Daniel; @Coh3n; @Hobbit; snippet section for reflection section

@elfyyy;

From: Robert
@Daniel; @Coh3n; @Hobbit; snippet section for reflection section

I for one wouldn't have to make a tutorial to show a simple concept.
Please do this :(

From: Robert
@Daniel; @Coh3n; @Hobbit; snippet section for reflection section

Tis Done https://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=672

From: Robert
@Daniel; @Coh3n; @Hobbit; snippet section for reflection section

From: Fitta
I for one wouldn't have to make a tutorial to show a simple concept.
Please do this :(

https://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=672

Some gripes:

"Whats new?" @ https://villavu.com/forum/forum.php needs an apostraphe:
—>

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"Old-School Scripts" @ https://villavu.com/forum/forum.php could have "Public" appended to the front of it to match the above heading:
—>

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"Only Members have access to this Section…" @ https://villavu.com/forum/forum.php could use some decapitalization.
—>

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Two minor fixes for the Jr. Member forum sections @ https://villavu.com/forum/forum.php (no ban 4 leak pls):
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"SRL Resource Library" and "SRL Old School Runescape" could distinguish themselves a bit better:
—>

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Reflection's forum header could be a litter nicer (in the vein of the above request):
—>
(Also, possibly move Reflection above Simba's section and decapitalize the "D" in "Development" of Simba's section)

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"S.M.A.R.T." —> "SMART"

Don't think this one needs a picture :p the periods are ugly imo and since everyone says "SMART" anyway, why not?

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"Unofficial Development" section: change "openGL" to "OpenGL"

Again no picture needed, it's right below SMART's section

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Note to self: stopped just short of "SRL Public" section

This is all really nit-picky stuff but just annoys me because I'm OCD

If you guys want more, I'll do the rest of the page

Please update the mobile version. Its very hard for me to read text on my ip.

Wow @KeepBotting, that looks so neat.

From: Annonymus
Wow @KeepBotting, that looks so neat.

The power of inspect element my friend :) thanks

Hey guys! I'm a newbie to the site, and to coding bots, and coding in general to be honest. I just wanted to submit something that would greatly help out new people. AS is the forums are quite, messy. You have no clue where to start other than downloading it. There should be a thread, or guide, or even directory that has the best order to learn stuff. As is you search the forums for what you want to do, for certain things. Like there's a DTM thread here, a Colors thread there, a different thread for everything, and nothing links any of them.

My suggestion is to create a forum, or a directory that will have everything from downloading and setting up Simba, to creating a function or procedure, to actually having a script complete an action. Create a thread that teaches you how to go from the beginning to the end. The forums are excellent if you know a little bit about coding SRL but if your absolutely new like myself, you know to look at the downloading guide first, and then the very basics thread. From there you have no idea what to look at, for, in what order, or anything.

I personally havn't been able to learn Simba due to this.. theres no direction in the forum, and a directory showing what order you should learn what in, would be amazing. For now, I've read over the basic guides, and then just random stuff. Theres no linkage, which I would love to see. I know it would help me a ton, and I think it would really help the entire community.

~~~~~Thanks for reading

Positive feedback (no gripes, sorry!): Thank you thank you thank you **thank you** for keeping all of the old scripts/posts that were made. SCAR/Runescape Scripting in general got me into programming, and now that I'm a full-time code monkey/"Software Engineer", coming back and seeing my work/posts from ~6 years ago has been a huge nostalgia trip for me.

Thank you again :)

From: FunoftheGame
Hey guys! I'm a newbie to the site, and to coding bots, and coding in general to be honest. I just wanted to submit something that would greatly help out new people. AS is the forums are quite, messy. You have no clue where to start other than downloading it. There should be a thread, or guide, or even directory that has the best order to learn stuff. As is you search the forums for what you want to do, for certain things. Like there's a DTM thread here, a Colors thread there, a different thread for everything, and nothing links any of them.

My suggestion is to create a forum, or a directory that will have everything from downloading and setting up Simba, to creating a function or procedure, to actually having a script complete an action. Create a thread that teaches you how to go from the beginning to the end. The forums are excellent if you know a little bit about coding SRL but if your absolutely new like myself, you know to look at the downloading guide first, and then the very basics thread. From there you have no idea what to look at, for, in what order, or anything.

I personally havn't been able to learn Simba due to this.. theres no direction in the forum, and a directory showing what order you should learn what in, would be amazing. For now, I've read over the basic guides, and then just random stuff. Theres no linkage, which I would love to see. I know it would help me a ton, and I think it would really help the entire community.

~~~~~Thanks for reading

While I love that you took the time to write that post, I really don't understand why you can't find anything. If you're after RS3 stuff, then there's literally a whole section of the forum dedicated it to it with multiple tutorials and stuff that will help you to learn how to script. In fact, there's a directory in the exact forum where you'd find those tutorials you read (which are excellent tutorials, btw) which can also be found in the red link in my signature.

If you're talking about 07, then things are indeed more difficult, but not impossible to find.

From: makro_ftw
Positive feedback (no gripes, sorry!): Thank you thank you thank you **thank you** for keeping all of the old scripts/posts that were made. SCAR/Runescape Scripting in general got me into programming, and now that I'm a full-time code monkey/"Software Engineer", coming back and seeing my work/posts from ~6 years ago has been a huge nostalgia trip for me.

Thank you again :)

Do you not have access to your old account? PM @Justin, I'm sure you could get it back. :)

From: Incurable
While I love that you took the time to write that post, I really don't understand why you can't find anything. If you're after RS3 stuff, then there's literally a whole section of the forum dedicated it to it with multiple tutorials and stuff that will help you to learn how to script. In fact, there's a directory in the exact forum where you'd find those tutorials you read (which are excellent tutorials, btw) which can also be found in the red link in my signature.

If you're talking about 07, then things are indeed more difficult, but not impossible to find.



Do you not have access to your old account? PM @Justin, I'm sure you could get it back. :)

I'm after 07, and yes it is possible, but for a complete newbie like myself I don't even know what to look for what or where or anything.

From: FunoftheGame
I'm after 07, and yes it is possible, but for a complete newbie like myself I don't even know what to look for what or where or anything.

https://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=492

Go nuts.

It would be nice to have more competitions among members in the forum, perhaps a competition thread etc, with weekly or daily prizes, challenging each other with scripting, or accomplishing an agreed task :) I'm new here, haven't been here long, but it's nice to see an active community, and I hope to become a SRL member one day, still learning :P

From: rickhunley
It would be nice to have more competitions among members in the forum, perhaps a competition thread etc, with weekly or daily prizes, challenging each other with scripting, or accomplishing an agreed task :) I'm new here, haven't been here long, but it's nice to see an active community, and I hope to become a SRL member one day, still learning :P

Welcome here!

Just to let you know, we do have a competition section where competitions have happened, and I believe that there is one being judged right now. You can find it under the 'SRL Public' tab on the main page of the forums.

From: Incurable
https://villavu.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=492

Go nuts.

I've been there. But each thing only teaches you random tidbits. I mean a real tutorial. Not 3 million random tutorials for every different thing. A tutorial that teaches the proper syntax, functions, procedures. Then goes into how to call it, and then goes into actually creating a script. Then a working script. Then an efficient script etc etc etc. Rather than a guide on how to cut 1 tree and drop it. Then a different guide how to take 3 steps and stop, etc etc.

From: FunoftheGame
I've been there. But each thing only teaches you random tidbits. I mean a real tutorial. Not 3 million random tutorials for every different thing. A tutorial that teaches the proper syntax, functions, procedures. Then goes into how to call it, and then goes into actually creating a script. Then a working script. Then an efficient script etc etc etc. Rather than a guide on how to cut 1 tree and drop it. Then a different guide how to take 3 steps and stop, etc etc.

I think I see what your problem is now. It's hard at first to see "3 million random tutorials" and no where to begin, but that's because you're looking for a single tutorial that teaches you literally everything. Such a thing already exists for RS3 (The Mayor's Simplistic and AIO tutorials), but for 07 you need to piece them together yourself. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that you could learn how to script with the guides in that forum, you just need to piece what you learn from each tutorial together. There is a tutorial that teaches you proper syntax, functions, procedures, and how to call them. There is another that teaches you to create a script (which works). You can apply that knowledge to create an efficient script, and look at the RS3 scripting tutorials for anything missing because it's literally the same thing but for a different version of the game.

Scripting in 07 and RS3 only differ because of the includes available, but it's still done in the same way. If you want to use the bank, you need to find it, open it, and deposit/withdraw. This is the same in 07 and RS3, but the way you do it is slightly different in each.

Alternatively, learn how to script for RS3 with The Mayor's tutorials first, then take that knowledge and apply it to 07.

From: Incurable
I think I see what your problem is now. It's hard at first to see "3 million random tutorials" and no where to begin, but that's because you're looking for a single tutorial that teaches you literally everything. Such a thing already exists for RS3 (The Mayor's Simplistic and AIO tutorials), but for 07 you need to piece them together yourself. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that you could learn how to script with the guides in that forum, you just need to piece what you learn from each tutorial together. There is a tutorial that teaches you proper syntax, functions, procedures, and how to call them. There is another that teaches you to create a script (which works). You can apply that knowledge to create an efficient script, and look at the RS3 scripting tutorials for anything missing because it's literally the same thing but for a different version of the game.

Scripting in 07 and RS3 only differ because of the includes available, but it's still done in the same way. If you want to use the bank, you need to find it, open it, and deposit/withdraw. This is the same in 07 and RS3, but the way you do it is slightly different in each.

Alternatively, learn how to script for RS3 with The Mayor's tutorials first, then take that knowledge and apply it to 07.

Ok, I have 1 more question. Can I code regular SRL scripts and run them though I have AL installed?

From: FunoftheGame
Ok, I have 1 more question. Can I code regular SRL scripts and run them though I have AL installed?

No, the AeroLib include is different to the SRL-OSR include so has different procedures and functions. There's no tutorial for it afaik, but you can learn to script with it after learning with other tutorials.

i have a 'reputation comment' in my notifications and when i click it, it brings me to some tab in my inbox with nothing in it. how do i make the notification go away?

From: Sushinut
Sorry to post this in this forum as it has nothing to do with an active storm dont tell on me

But could you please let us know how you found storm2k. It is both helpful and interesting for us to know how everyone is finding us. Guests please take time to register and let us know as well. Would be greatly appreciated everyone

Thanks,
Chad

wtf is this

From: KeepBotting
wtf is this

pretty obvious m8. I'll spell it out for ya.

chad (a category 5, from east central florida) wants to know how you found storm2k. If you were just a guest browsing, then he's also asking you to take the time to register so you can post your answer. Simple, no?

From: keepbotting
wtf is this

lol