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Harled

2007-05-16 10:10:48

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Harled - SRL Member Application Form
Harled

What is the meaning to life?


Where you Referred to SRL? If yes, by whom?
yes
By my brother GoF not much to explain about that.

Programming Knowledge
Some c++, quite lot of delphi.

Other Communitys
None.

How Long have You Played Runescape
Why is this even here? In total about lets say 3 years but ive quitted many times.

Are you affilated in anyway with Jagex LTD?
No
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Please write down a paragraph about Yourself.

Im 16 years old and from finland. What else do you want to know? Oh and im GoF's brother. Actually I dont have much experience at RuneScape cheating and the only reason I want to apply here is making scripts because begging for cheats or using some crappy keylogged "miners" isn't for me.

While previewing this I noticed that "What is the meaning to life?" is invisible for me so I cant answer to them.

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Please Post a Sample of your Work. Only SCAR Scripts Accepted

:spot: My first script and yes I actually made that :spot:


{CHICKEN DESTROYER BY HARLED.
I MADE THIS SCRIPT TO APPLY FOR SRL MEMBERSHIP. LOVE IT OR HATE IT.
LET ME KNOW WHAT TO IMPROVE/EDIT TO MAKE IT BETTER, NOT PLANNING ON RELEASING THIS
BUT INCASE I DONT GET ACCEPTED.. SCRIPT MIGHT NOT WORK 100% BUT I MADE IT ONLY
TO SHOW MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT SCAR.

THIS SCRIPT TOOK ATLEAST A FEW HOURS TO MAKE SO PLEASE TRY TO ATLEAST COMMENT
THE SCRIPT HOW IT COULD BE IMPROVED OR SO TO GET SRL MEMBERSHIP, INCASE ITS NOT
GOOD ENOUGH ALREADY.

THANKS TO GoF FOR TEACHING ME ALOT ABOUT SCAR ;)

I KNOW CAPS LOCK IS ANNOYING SO DONT COMMENT THAT AS A - FOR THE SCRIPT.

Note: You need to have feathers in first inventory slot.
}
program HarledChickenDestroyer;
{.Include SRL/SRL.scar}

const
Feather = 10240; //Only color to set.. This has worked for me well.
Chicks = 1000; //Chickens to kill.
First = 0; //First acc to play?
Switch = True; //Switch players?
STO = 15; //Switch timeout.. In minutes.. Only needed if above is true.
MaxW = 10; //Max wait before clicking chicken again in seconds.
DumbDebug = True; //Debug alot? Such things as clicking chickens/finding feathers etc.
AntiB = True; //Do antiban?

var
CDone, Clicx, Swaps, Picks: Integer; //For report.
ChickC: array[0..3] of Integer; //Chicken colors.
ChickTimes, SwapTO, TheSwitch: Longint; //For timers.
FeatherDTM: Integer;//DTM

procedure DeclarePlayers;
begin
HowManyPlayers := 2;
NumberOfPlayers(HowManyPlayers);
CurrentPlayer := First;

Players[0].Name := '';
Players[0].Pass := '';
Players[0].Nick := '';
Players[0].String1 := 'strength'; //Fightmode.. Valid = 'attack' 'strength' 'defence'
Players[0].Active := True; //You will get a error if fightmode is spelled wrong.

Players[1].Name := '';
Players[1].Pass := '';
Players[1].Nick := '';
Players[1].String1 := 'strength';
Players[1].Active := True;

end;

Function FindFastRandoms: Boolean;//By WT-Fakawi(Didnt see this coming, eh :P)
var
i: Integer;
begin
for i:=1 to 9 do
begin
case I of
1: If FindDead then
Result := True;
2: If FindMod then
Result := True;
3: If FindMime then
Result := True;
4: If FindMaze then
Result := True;
5: If FindQuiz then
Result := True;
6: If FindDemon then
Result := True;
7: begin
if NoGameTab then
begin
Result := True;
Players[CurrentPlayer].loc := 'No GameTab';
Logout;
Exit;
end;
end;
8: begin
if InBlack then
begin
Result := True;
Players[CurrentPlayer].loc := 'InBlack';
Logout;
Exit;
end;
end;
9: begin
if FindFight then
begin
RunTo('N',False);
end;
end;
end;
wait(1);
end;
end;

function AccountCheck: Boolean;
var
Check: Integer;
begin
for Check := 0 to HowManyPlayers do
begin
if (Players[Check].Active = True) then
begin
if (DumbDebug) then
Writeln('Still active accounts.');
Result := True;
end;
end;
if (Result) then
Exit;
else
begin
Writeln('No more accounts.');
Writeln('Terminating');
TerminateScript;
end;
end;

procedure Termination(ReasonForTerminate: string);
var
OutAlready: Integer;
begin
Writeln(ReasonForTerminate);
DisguiseSCAR(ReasonForTerminate);
Status(ReasonForTerminate);
while (LoggedIn) do
begin
OutAlready := OutAlready + 1;
LogOut;
if (OutAlready = 3) then
begin
Writeln('Couldnt log out.');
Writeln('Terminating anyway');
TerminateScript;
end;
end;
if (not (LoggedIn)) then
begin
Writeln('Managed to log out.');
TerminateScript;
end;
end;

procedure LoadThings;
begin
Writeln('Loading chicken colors.');
ChickC[0] := 1121675;
ChickC[1] := 2160891;
ChickC[2] := 858759;
ChickC[3] := 1121675;

Wait(100+random(600));
Writeln('Done.');
end;

procedure BanMeNot;
var
RandB: Integer;
begin
if (AntiB) then
begin
if (not (LoggedIn)) then
begin
Exit;
end;
RandB := Random(35)
case RandB of
1: BoredEvery(2 + Random(10));
2: MakeCompass('N');
3: HoverSkill('Strenght', false);
4: LeaveScreenEvery(10 + Random(5));
5: BoredEvery(9 + Random(21));
6: DoEmote(1 + Random(20));
7: RotateEvery(20 + Random(5));
8: MMouse(Random(300), Random(400), 10, 10)
end;
end;
end;

procedure CheckFeather; //Very.. Not necessary.
begin
MMouseItem(1);
Wait(1000 + random(400));
if (not (IsUpText('eath'))) then
begin
Writeln('No feather in first inv slot..');
Wait(500 + random(300));
Writeln('Its required.');
Wait(500 + random(300));
Writeln('Terminating.');
Termination('Feathers lost');
end
else
begin
Writeln('Feathers found!');
Writeln('Proceeding.');
end;
end;

function DeclareStyle: Boolean;
var
Real: Boolean;
begin
Writeln('Setting up fighting style.');
GameTab(1);
if(Players[CurrentPlayer].Skill = 'attack') or
(Players[CurrentPlayer].Skill = 'strength') or
(Players[CurrentPlayer].Skill = 'defence') then
begin
Real := True;
Writeln('Valid fighting style!');
end
else
begin
Writeln('Invalid fighting style!');
Real := False;
end;
if (not (Real)) then
begin
Players[CurrentPlayer].Active := False;
Result := False;
end
else
begin
if (Players[CurrentPlayer].Skill = 'attack') then
begin
Writeln('Current player is training attack.');
SetFightMode(1);
end;
if (Players[CurrentPlayer].Skill = 'strength') then
begin
Writeln('Current player is training attack.');
SetFightMode(2);
end;
if (Players[CurrentPlayer].Skill = 'defence') then
begin
Writeln('Current player is training attack.');
SetFightMode(4);
end;
Wait(1500 + Random(500));
GameTab(2);
HoverSkill(Players[CurrentPlayer].Skill, False);
GameTab(4);
end;
end;

function WeAreInLumbridgeCastle: Boolean;
begin
if FindSymbol(x, y, 'water') then
begin
Result := True;
Writeln('We are at lumby!');
Writeln('Damnit!');
Players[CurrentPlayer].Active := False;
LogOut;
end;
end;

procedure EquipAll; //A bit useless.
var
EQB: integer;
DDx, DDy: integer;
begin
repeat
EQB := EQB + 1;
if (ExistsItem(EQB)) then
begin
MMouseItem(EQB);
GetMousePos(DDx, DDy);
Wait(200);
if (IsUpText('Wield')) then
Mouse(DDx, DDy, 0, 0, True);
Wait(1000 + random(2000));
end;
until (EQB = 3) or (EQB = 4)
end;

procedure SetSwapTimeOut;
begin
Writeln('Setting swap timeout.');
SwapTO := STO * 60000;
SwapTO := SwapTO + Random(4 * 60000);
Wait(1000 + random(500));
Writeln('Done setting times.');
end;

function Destroy: boolean;
var
ZX: integer;
ChX, ChY: integer;
Tx,Ty: Integer;
CTO: integer;
begin
CTO := 20000 + random(10000);
MarkTime(ChickTimes);
repeat
ZX := Random(6); //For color arrays.
if (FindColorTolerance(ChX, Chy, ChickC[ZX], MSx1, MSy1, MSx2, MSy2, 15)) then
begin
MMouse(ChX, ChY, 1, 1);
if(IsUpText('tta')) or
(IsUpText('ack')) then
if FindColor(Tx, Ty, 255, ChX - 25, Chy - 25, ChX + 25, Chy + 25) or
FindColor(Tx, Ty, 65280, ChX - 25, Chy - 25, ChX + 25, Chy + 25) then
begin
Break;
Exit;
end;
end
else
begin
Mouse(ChX, ChY, 1, 1, true);
Result := True;
end;
until (Result) or (TimeFromMark(ChickTimes) > CTO)
end;

procedure RandomMpos;
var
SSx, SSy: Integer;
RandM: Integer;
BrkIt: Integer;
begin
GetClientDimensions(SSx, SSy);
Wait(100);
RandM := Random(3 + 2);
repeat
MMouse(Random(SSx), Random(SSy), 35, 35);
Wait(100 + random(200));
BrkIt := BrkIt + 1;
until (BrkIt = RandM)
Wait(random(300));
end;

procedure WaitForEnd;
var
MxWait: Integer;
TheTimr: Longint;
begin
MarkTime(TheTimr);
MxWait := MaxW * 1000;
MxWait := MxWait + random(2000);
repeat
Wait(100 + random(35));
FindFastRandoms;
until (TimeFromMark(TheTimr) > MxWait)
end;


function Feathers: Boolean; //Might not work well, but should work in theory.
var
TempC: Integer;
PickX: Integer;
PickY: Integer;
begin
if (not (LoggedIn)) then
begin
Exit;
end;
if (FindMSColorTol(x, y, Feather, 10)) then
begin
TempC := GetColor(x, y);
Wait(100 + random(100));
if (FindColorTolerance(x, y, TempC, x - 30, y - 30, x + 30, y + 30, 15)) then
begin
if (DumbDebug) then
Writeln('Possibly feathers sighted...');
end;
MMouse(x, y, 2, 2);
Wait(200 + random(200) - Random(100));
if (IsUpText('eath')) then
begin
if (DumbDebug) then
begin
Writeln('Feathers!');
end;
GetMousePos(PickX, PickY);
case (Random(15)) of
1: RandomMPos;
3: RandomMPos;
7: RandomMPos;
end;
Mouse(PickX, PickY, 2, 3, True);
Wait(150);
Picks := Picks + 1;
Flag;
Wait(Random(2000));
Result := True;
Exit;
end
else if (not (IsUpText('eath'))) then //Try right clicking.
begin
GetMousePos(PickX, PickY);
Mouse(PickX + Random(3) - Random(3), PickY + Random(3) - Random(3), 1, 1, False);
Wait(50 + random(100));
if (ChooseOption(PickX, PickY, 'eath')) then
Flag;
Wait(Random(2000));
Result := True;
Exit; //done, we can exit.
end
else
begin
if (DumbDebug) then
Writeln('No feathers.. damn.');
Exit;
end;
end;
end;

procedure Welcome;//I just think this is cool.
begin
ClearDebug;
Writeln('Script by: ');
Wait(500+random(100));
Writeln(' __ __ ___ __ ');
Wait(500+random(100));
Writeln('/\ \/\ \ /\_ \ /\ \ ');
Wait(500+random(100));
Writeln('\ \ \_\ \ __ _ __\//\ \ __ \_\ \ ');
Wait(500+random(100));
Writeln(' \ \ _ \ /´__`\ /\`´__\\ \ \ /´__`\ /´_` \ ');
Wait(500+random(100));
Writeln(' \ \ \ \ \/\ \_\.\_\ \ \/ \_\ \_/\ __//\ \_\ \ ');
Wait(500+random(100));
Writeln(' \ \_\ \_\ \__/.\_\\ \_\ /\____\ \____\ \___,_\ ');
Wait(500+random(100));
Writeln(' \/_/\/_/\/__/\/_/ \/_/ \/____/\/____/\/__,_ / ');
end;

begin
Welcome;
SetUpSRL;
DeclarePlayers;
LogInPlayer;
CheckFeather;
repeat
if (LoggedIn) then
begin
DeclareStyle;
SetRun(True);
GameTab(4);
Writeln('Run set...');
SetScreenName(Players[CurrentPlayer].Nick);
HighestAngle;
SetSwapTimeOut;
MarkTime(TheSwitch);
end;
Writeln('Starting to destroy chickens soon.');
repeat
Destroy;
WaitForEnd;
Feathers;
if (not (LoggedIn)) then
Break;
if (AntiB) then
BanMeNot;
until (TimeFromMark(TheSwitch) > SwapTO)
AccountCheck;
if (LoggedIn) then
begin
NextPlayer(True);
end else
begin
NextPlayer(False);
end;
until (False)
end.

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n3ss3s

2007-05-16 11:40:48

Oh youre GoF's brother. Welcome :)
YoureIn:=YoureIn+1;
Oh youre from Finland too! YoureIn:=YoureIn+1;
You didnt leave script spot blank YoureIn:=YoureIn+1;
You didnt copy a scirpt YoureIn:=YoureIn+1;
Script is nice YoureIn:=YoureIn+1;
FindFastRandoms there YoureIn:=YoureIn+1;

Youre doing good…

Definetly a yes from me.
(oon sua 4 vuot nuorempi :D kumma juttu et pääsen arvioimaa sun taitoi :))

Oh and you asked for advices to improve hmm..
Okay, that function which checks are you in lumbridge castle may not work too often because the symbols move, and it could see the symbol like just on the edge of minimap, so you necassarily woudlnt have to be in the castle to see the symbol.

and if some dev sees this, WHY THE HECK ISNT FINDFASTRANDOMS IN SRL??

JuKKa

2007-05-16 11:47:11

yayy another finn!

a nice script u have there!

-Yes

Harled

2007-05-16 11:55:42

Juu en keksiny parempaakaan tohon lumby systeemiin…

Not sure how well that script will work, but atleast shows that I know something about SCAR. I doubt that you try or use these appliance scripts anyway.

GoF

2007-05-16 11:58:36

I thought i wouldnt vote but o well, i think the script itself is good enough for yes.

steth1010

2007-05-16 15:58:03

lol did u all just say yes because hes GoF's brother? lol it doesnt matter I just want to know, also it is a yes for me to :P

JAD

2007-05-16 16:47:41

Hmm.. Kind of weird you have some off standards in some places, that would drive me crazy if I knew standards (which I do) :p

And things like


if(not(LoggedIn))then
Exit;

and


if(not(LoggedIn))then
begin
Exit;
end;

confuse me because you should know that after an end, it only does the next line of code.. So if you wanted it to do more then 1 thing after a then, you would put a begin.

So your anti ban procedure I think may have been copied then modified a bit to lower suspicion.

And I'm just curious, but do you understand all of this or did GoF just do a lot of it for you? Not accusing you of that, just would like to know if he wrote anything for you.

The we are in lumbridge castle thing may terminate the script when your actually not, because sometimes symbols are covered by 1 person and it doesn't find the symbol then.

Maybe in your fighting procedure you should have a tolerance adder? Because 15 tolerance is a LOT of tolerance, and the script will probably move the mouse to a LOT of things other then the chicken because the colors on walls and stuff are very similar, if not identical to the chicken colors.

You could also look for the chicken with tolerance, then if the text is up use GetColor and make that equal the color, and then not even look for the chicken with tolerance. That would be more reliable to kill more chickens and get the mouse on them without the mouse freaking out.

Maybe you should have tested your script before applying to smooth out a few problems? Because you don't seem to be sure if things will work or not at all because you probably didn't test :p

You should have done something so that you can average out where the chicken died, so it doesn't need to search the whole main screen for the feathers.

You use Flag, I wouldn't suggest using that because from what I've heard, theres an error with it.

Again in the main loop with the begin do just 1 thing end:


if (LoggedIn) then
begin
NextPlayer(True);
end else
begin
NextPlayer(False);
end;

Sorry, but I'm starting to doubt you made all of this. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You only have 2 posts, and both of them are on this app.. You should get to know the forums a bit more before applying.

I'm going to have to vote no, even if you did make all of this I would still vote no. Sorry. Better luck next time if you don't get in this time.

Edit: And I noticed you didn't find rnadoms properly using FindNormalRandoms along with FindFastRandoms.. That is VERY important, because right now your script doesn't look for ANY talking randoms!

RAM

2007-05-16 20:34:21

Well, it would help if you posted a bit more, so we could get to know you a little bit…I also wondered because of your low post count, How much Gof had helped you, but because of the errors listed by Jad, I'm assuming he didn't write it for you…and yes, some people actually do test scripts in appliances…when they are submitted, which is rare these days ….. It seems you have all the theory down and this is a useful script, I think if you fix a few things ,add a progress report to it and post some actual reports you received from testing it, it might help your credibility a bit more…Good Luck, RAM

Harled

2007-05-17 05:11:05

Few things about this, JAD and RAM

First of all, GoF didnt write much of anything there, maybe im just smart enough to apply without spamming around the forums or so. Sort of stupid if people are judged by their post count.

Second, I cant think of anything more stupid than to complain about standards. "You dont have 2 space indents!111 bad script". And SCAR seems to have some problems with 'else'.. So sort of forces me to use that kind of stuff that you noticed.

Also, I didnt make this script to release it, why would I release this? I dont want to have 100 complaining leechers scream about minor errors and stuff like that, I just made this to show that I know something about SCAR, not to release this because I already have bigger projects going on to be released.

Im not sure but I thought people should post why they vote either yes or no.

n3ss3s

2007-05-17 05:36:45

Harled kyl muaki standardit alus ketutti enkä yhtää tajunnu miks pitäis olla ku boreas vines kokoaja mut sitä on paaaaljon helpompi lukee jos on ne standardit.
Niit ei välttämät tarvii ite opetella nii täydellisesti jos käyttää tota minkä tuolt voi lataa:
http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6179

kandee kummiski vähä opetella koska joskus toi masiina pistää ne vähä :S

Pentti

2007-05-17 05:42:16

Terve!

Finns keep coming and going!
Haha! :D
From: Harled
Few things about this, JAD and RAM

First of all, GoF didnt write much of anything there, maybe im just smart enough to apply without spamming around the forums or so. Sort of stupid if people are judged by their post count.

Maybe we would like to know a bit more about you before you get SRL members status.

From: Harled
Second, I cant think of anything more stupid than to complain about standards. "You dont have 2 space indents!111 bad script". And SCAR seems to have some problems with 'else'.. So sort of forces me to use that kind of stuff that you noticed.

Man!! This is SRL member application, not a first script show-application. You need to know about your standards!

From: Harled
Also, I didnt make this script to release it, why would I release this? I dont want to have 100 complaining leechers scream about minor errors and stuff like that, I just made this to show that I know something about SCAR, not to release this because I already have bigger projects going on to be released.

If you had released it first, you would have got some feedback and you would have been able to fix the bugs etc…

Jees, sun pitäis opetella ehkä lisää.

Sorry, no.
But still keep on learning SCAR scripting!

(Lol, how many finnish guys there are on the forums? :D)

Wizzup?

2007-05-17 06:28:30

Yes from me.

n3ss3s

2007-05-17 06:31:33

[OFFTOPIC][FINNISH]Pentti meit on kai minä sinä harled,gof,jukka ja sit jotai leecherei[/FINNISH][/OFFTOPIC]

rkroxpunk

2007-05-17 06:44:41

Ok firstly last time I checked this forum was English not err well whatever u call Finland thingy :D so plz post in English I for one can't read anything ur saying. Secondly people have posted why they voted yes/no u just dissagreed with them all. I'm going to hold my vote for the moment but nice job on actually applying with a script that's not too bad :D. And the reason everyone was questioning ur standards is in some spots u got it completely correct and in others they were just crazy so yeah there's reason to think someone else did bits of it….

Harled

2007-05-17 06:53:01

EDIT: Right, so Im not allowed to post in finnish? Sorry, if I disagree with someones opinions. Also, only person who has wrote anything there is GoF except for that FindFastRandoms. And GoF has wrote like few lines there.

Jees, eli miten se liittyy siihen et toi scripti on huonompi jos siel on:


if(something)then
begin
Something;
end else
begin
Something
end;

Ärsyttää ku joidenki pitää leikkii hienoo ja viisasta tommosesta kommentoimalla. Indentit on just hyvät koska käytin jotain delphi formatter systeemii et ne on ainaki oikein.

No kerros nyt samalla et mitä erityisesti pitäis opetella lisää? Ku kiinnostais tietää.

Wow, a yes from a admin :)

Pentti

2007-05-17 07:32:33

From: Harled
Jees, eli miten se liittyy siihen et toi scripti on huonompi jos siel on:


if(something)then
begin
Something;
end else
begin
Something
end;

Ärsyttää ku joidenki pitää leikkii hienoo ja viisasta tommosesta kommentoimalla. Indentit on just hyvät koska käytin jotain delphi formatter systeemii et ne on ainaki oikein.

No kerros nyt samalla et mitä erityisesti pitäis opetella lisää? Ku kiinnostais tietää.

Niiko sanoin, tää on SRL member hakemus, niis yleensä zekataa hommelit niiko sun standardit, ja tuo tekee sen vaikeeks luettavaks…

Ja tietäisit enemmä jos oisit ollu forumeil jonku aikaa enneko haet SRL-memberiks.

From: n3ss3s
[OFFTOPIC][FINNISH]Pentti meit on kai minä sinä harled,gof,jukka ja sit jotai leecherei[/FINNISH][/OFFTOPIC]

Joo, tiiän viel lisääki. :D

Janilabo

2007-05-17 07:50:28

From: n3ss3s
[OFFTOPIC][FINNISH]Pentti meit on kai minä sinä harled,gof,jukka ja sit jotai leecherei[/FINNISH][/OFFTOPIC]
[OFFTOPIC][FINNISH]Kuinka sä kehtaat jättää MUT mainitsematta!?!!1 :D

Joo tosiaa, mä oon kans ympäril (ollukki jo "vähä" aikaa :D)… Ei vaa tuu scriptailtuu SCARil RuneScapee mitää, ku ei sitä oo tullu pelailtuu kohta 3 vuotee (en tykkää siit 2 versiost…) Parii vähä pienempää MMORPGii tulee SCARil scriptailtuu… .. nii ja sit tietty hupihupii tulee kans jonku verra. :p

Secetinki muuten unohdit ;) Että kyllähä meitä suomalaisii tääl riittää[/FINNISH][/OFFTOPIC]

[ONTOPIC]Looking good to me, definitely yes.[/ONTOPIC]

n3ss3s

2007-05-17 10:09:09

ai sä ja secet kans ootte. muistelinki et jossai threadis olitte puhunu suomee.
[Translation]Oh you and Secet are finnish too. I remembered something like that you were speaking Finnish in some thread[/Translation]

c0de

2007-05-17 10:24:45

Yes from c0de.

JAD

2007-05-17 13:40:36

Having a high post count doesn't necessarily mean your spamming up the forums.. Are you going to say Boreas is spamming up the forums with 2.5k posts (or whatever he's at right now) ? I post 90% non spam, if not a higher percentage then that!

You may not even know who Boreas is, but you would if you posted a few times and knew the forums a little better now would you?

RsN is a GREAT developer, and a very good scripter. I don't know him at all though because he doesn't post. Not saying thats a bad thing, but the more you post, the more people get to know you and I'd like to know you more.

And I think I pointed out a few more reasons besides just standards.. All the little things add up.

And if your not going to post a script because you don't want the "leachers" getting mad because theres little errors, then you wouln't be of much help to the community scripting-wise now will you?

If you don't post scripts or functions, or help people in the scripting help section or write tutorials or do anything like that, then you shouldn't even be a SRL member because in my eyes, SRL members are people who help the community.

So I don't think you should get in, but obviously some other people think differently.

[Kinda off topic] Just because we get a lot of blank apps and copied scripts now-a-days shouldn't mean that we are more lenient because we don't get as many good apps anymore right? Not saying this is a terrible app, but I still think we shouldn't lower our standards for SRL membership status. [/Kinda off topic]

c0de

2007-05-17 13:46:15

He just joined the forums, what do you want him to have, 500 posts already?

JAD

2007-05-17 13:49:42

From: c0de
He just joined the forums, what do you want him to have, 500 posts already?


Don't you think he could have had 1 post other then his app at least?

And maybe you shouldn't apply when you just joined the forums.

Did you read any tutorials from this site? And if so, did you comment on any of them? Well, if you read any, obviously you didn't because your only posts are on this application.

I think he should have at least 10-15 posts not counting the one(s) on his app.

So of course I don't want him to have 500 posts.. But I had 180 posts when I applied. Some of those posts were comments on scripts/tutorials, some of those posts were scripts/tutorials of my own, and a LOT of those posts were helping people in the scripting help section.

So I agree with what Boreas has been pulling for for a long time :p

c0de

2007-05-17 13:59:12

You realise he has brother who has alot more posts than him, how do you know he wasn't around browsing on brothers account…

Pentti

2007-05-17 14:07:12

C0de, why are you so defensive?
Hmm.. anyways I agree with JAD.

You have started scripting pretty good, but Harled, being on the forums for longer before applying SRL member would do just good for you.

YoHoJo

2007-05-17 14:09:50

Yea, i agree JAD, scripting is just 1/2 the challenge.
I think you should also be familiar with the forums.
And how do we know that GOF didnt just make the script for you? :p (not saying he did, but hey its plausible)

c0de

2007-05-17 15:37:42

You'll see why when Harled becomes next Microsoft manager :p

n3ss3s

2007-05-17 16:30:12

Ahh, thanks for returning us to earth JAD :)
But he aint bad is he?

n3ss3s

2007-05-17 16:34:44

Im totally agreeing with u JAD I had like what was it 20-50 posts when I got in maybe its bit low but something like that if u keep ur mouth shut comes from like 1 month at forums.

JAD

2007-05-17 17:30:15

From: n3ss3s
Im totally agreeing with u JAD I had like what was it 20-50 posts when I got in maybe its bit low but something like that if u keep ur mouth shut comes from like 1 month at forums.


20-50 posts means that you have been around the forums a little bit, browsed around and possibly helped some people or posted comments/bugs/feed back on tutorials or scripts.

And why would hareld be posting/browsing the forum on his brothers account? I wouldn't think that GoF would want him doing that seeing as how people blame everything on there brother for doing something like MOB did.

And I was looking at the possibility that GoF did write a lot of the script, because even Harold said that GoF only wrote a little of it, and Harold never gave credits to him for that from what I know.

Anyways.. I really don't think that he should get in for 3 reasons:

1: post count too low and doesn't know the forums well enough.

2: The script is ok, but not fantastic.

3: If he doesn't want to post scripts because he's afraid of leachers getting mad about the script, can he really help the community then? I mean, I don't think we just want people as SRL member who can script; We (or at least I) want people who will use there scripting knowledge to help the community instead of being afraid to use there abilities.

Boreas

2007-05-17 17:36:32

Agreed.

RAM

2007-05-17 18:58:50

Ei! I-KIRJAIN ajatella te hankkia epäkelpo asenne jtk kohti ihmiset koettaminen jotta auttaa te. Olemassaolo SRL alkio on ei kohtuullinen jokseenkin hankkiva sinun lähimmäinen että on alkio ja hankkiva hänelle auttaa jotta kirjailla kirjoitus ajaksi te. Se on kin jokseenkin kuinka te jälkisäädös hyödyttää yhdyskunta , ja sinun alttius jotta hyväksyä konstruktio arvosteleminen ja ehtiä anastaa heilahdus.




No ! I think you have a bad attitude towards the people trying to help you . Being a SRL member is not just about having your brother that is a member and having him help to write a script for you. It is also about how you will benefit the community, and your willingness to accept constructive criticism and make appropriate changes.

RAM

JAD

2007-05-17 19:12:11

From: RAM_RUNE
Ei! I-KIRJAIN ajatella te hankkia epäkelpo asenne jtk kohti ihmiset koettaminen jotta auttaa te. Olemassaolo SRL alkio on ei kohtuullinen jokseenkin hankkiva sinun lähimmäinen että on alkio ja hankkiva hänelle auttaa jotta kirjailla kirjoitus ajaksi te. Se on kin jokseenkin kuinka te jälkisäädös hyödyttää yhdyskunta , ja sinun alttius jotta hyväksyä konstruktio arvosteleminen ja ehtiä anastaa heilahdus.




No ! I think you have a bad attitude towards the people trying to help you . Being a SRL member is not just about having your brother that is a member and having him help to write a script for you. It is also about how you will benefit the community, and your willingness to accept constructive criticism and make appropriate changes.

RAM


I think he has a bad attitude too.. And I agree with you completely.

Dunceiam

2007-05-17 19:40:57

3: If he doesn't want to post scripts because he's afraid of leachers getting mad about the script, can he really help the community then? I mean, I don't think we just want people as SRL member who can script; We (or at least I) want people who will use there scripting knowledge to help the community instead of being afraid to use there abilities.


Thats basically where I come in :). After the first page or so of that thread, once the same questions start getting repeated and repeated, I in a way, "take over that thread". Answering all the easy questions that get posted all the time, you then only need to answer the question about the problem with the script. So you don't need to worry about threads getting spammed by leechers :).

And also, I agree that you should at least have some posts on this forum. So people get to know your personality and a bit about you. :)

But it's a yes from me.

-Dunceiam

GoF

2007-05-18 06:55:22

I thought this judging by post count was more around at sythe -.-

Now, for the tenth time i didnt make the script for him.. The other thing im a bit confused about is that here isnt many posts about Harleds script, just lots of posts how hes post count isnt good enough, or how hes not good because he didnt agree with JAD. Im also quite sure he meant to say that if he posted lots of useless stuff like commenting every each script at these forums or so, would that make him better? Not like Boreas would spam the forums, thats not the point, the point is that u can easily get a big post count without helping anyone. I havent helped many people around here and i also got SRL membership with a worse script in my opinion.. So i see post count is very important then?

Also JAD, u seem to say no to everyone unless theyre the next WT-Fakawi or something, i dont think u should be so though with the rating because people can improve.

Yet another point.. WHY would he want to get SRL members anyway unless he wants to make scripts? If he wanted to he could just get all SRL memb scripts through my user, so i dont see any point why i would have made a script for him to apply with..

I thought that the making scripts is as important than post count or helping people, but in this thread it seems that helping is more important than scripting? The script is decent and ive seen many people get SRL members with worse scripts.

Johura

2007-05-18 08:44:25

No from me. Get to know the forums more. Take advice, dont flame it. Standards are important. And Gof, you are wrong. Being nice, mature, having a good attitude, helping, contributeing and not doing anything to annoy other people, to me, is more important then scripting.

JAD

2007-05-18 10:18:48

From: GoF
I thought this judging by post count was more around at sythe -.-

Now, for the tenth time i didnt make the script for him.. The other thing im a bit confused about is that here isnt many posts about Harleds script, just lots of posts how hes post count isnt good enough, or how hes not good because he didnt agree with JAD. Im also quite sure he meant to say that if he posted lots of useless stuff like commenting every each script at these forums or so, would that make him better? Not like Boreas would spam the forums, thats not the point, the point is that u can easily get a big post count without helping anyone. I havent helped many people around here and i also got SRL membership with a worse script in my opinion.. So i see post count is very important then?

Also JAD, u seem to say no to everyone unless theyre the next WT-Fakawi or something, i dont think u should be so though with the rating because people can improve.

Yet another point.. WHY would he want to get SRL members anyway unless he wants to make scripts? If he wanted to he could just get all SRL memb scripts through my user, so i dont see any point why i would have made a script for him to apply with..

I thought that the making scripts is as important than post count or helping people, but in this thread it seems that helping is more important than scripting? The script is decent and ive seen many people get SRL members with worse scripts.


I think the reason you are defending this person so much is because your his brother right?

And if you didn't notice, Boreas, Yohojo and a lot of other people agreed with me as well right?

And I know people can improve, but I think that they should go improve as a registered user, then get back to us in a month.. Thats how I look at it.

If they're not good enough, or just below standard, I don't vote yes. I don't vote yes to apps that are below standard just because we get a lot of crappy apps all the time (blank/copied).

And even if you only commented on things, people would get to see your name, you would see other people's names by posting, maybe get to know some people and a tutorial writer could get a compliment right?

I still don't think he should get in.

GoF

2007-05-18 11:09:29

Basically the script is good enough, and u say no to everyone except very few people and twist hes words around, or where did he say Boreas spams? I dont know what tuts he has been reading but he knows some delphi i guess so he doesnt really need any assistance in how to use begin and end or something. Most likely commands from SRL manual. Whats the point to get to know people around here? Should he be some kinda asskisser to get SRL membership then? Anyway like +70% of the people who come here only come to ask "Include file missing!!!" errors and to get Wizzup?'s essminer.

1. Idc if he browses with my account, hes not stupid and wont do anything stupid if i tell him not to.

2. What exactly is here to know? "Doesnt know forums well enough".. Not much, leeching scripts, stupid questions, releasing scripts.. OH, and commenting scripts".. And few topics about something else.. Of course u get a high post count if u post to all threads u see, and how does that make u a better person anyway, the same problem as theres in sythe.

3. He told me to post here about that "afraid of posting scripts" part. He has no interest in continuing with that chicken killer and only made it to show some interest and knowledge about SCAR, and if he released it he would have loads of leechers and noobs complain if he doesnt update it, clear enough?

Yes, people agreed with u but i dont see any reason to be so obsessive about this topic? Just because he disagreed with u? Because now it seems to be the number 1 thing to you to prove that he doesnt deserve the membership.. As u have posted atleast 6 times on this thread just to prove that and thats just weird.

JAD

2007-05-18 18:56:31

From: GoF
Basically the script is good enough, and u say no to everyone except very few people and twist hes words around, or where did he say Boreas spams? I dont know what tuts he has been reading but he knows some delphi i guess so he doesnt really need any assistance in how to use begin and end or something. Most likely commands from SRL manual. Whats the point to get to know people around here? Should he be some kinda asskisser to get SRL membership then? Anyway like +70% of the people who come here only come to ask "Include file missing!!!" errors and to get Wizzup?'s essminer.

1. Idc if he browses with my account, hes not stupid and wont do anything stupid if i tell him not to.

2. What exactly is here to know? "Doesnt know forums well enough".. Not much, leeching scripts, stupid questions, releasing scripts.. OH, and commenting scripts".. And few topics about something else.. Of course u get a high post count if u post to all threads u see, and how does that make u a better person anyway, the same problem as theres in sythe.

3. He told me to post here about that "afraid of posting scripts" part. He has no interest in continuing with that chicken killer and only made it to show some interest and knowledge about SCAR, and if he released it he would have loads of leechers and noobs complain if he doesnt update it, clear enough?

Yes, people agreed with u but i dont see any reason to be so obsessive about this topic? Just because he disagreed with u? Because now it seems to be the number 1 thing to you to prove that he doesnt deserve the membership.. As u have posted atleast 6 times on this thread just to prove that and thats just weird.


Do you want to know whats weird? You being a jerk to me.. Thats what's weird. I am probably one of the least rude people on this forum. Although I can be rude at few times, I still consider my self a nice, tough person.

I don't flame anybody for posting a blank app like some people do.. And I'm always helping people.

But whats an SRL member supposed to do? Help the community right? How is he going to help the community in any way if he doesn't make 1 single post??

I agree that post count isn't the most important thing ever.. But without at least 10 posts or more, you really can't or haven't helped the community at all.

I haven't seen him help the community once, and I think everybody will agree because he couldn't have helped without a single post other then this application.

When I applied, I had been a good helper in the scripting help section, I had posted 3 tutorials, I had posted a script and I believe I was more respected for that because I Helped the community..

So yes, post count isn't important.. But you need to help the community to get in in my eyes. It doesn't help the community being a scripter, it helps the community by posting helpful things..

And I believe you are being a bit rude to me right now, and you wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't your brother. And of course your going to defend your brother, but that doesn't give you, or him the right to be a jerk to me.

And I don't see where I said that he said boreas spammed??

Also, why are you getting mad at me for being to tough and having to high of standards for SRL membership status? YoHoJo, a very respected member of this forum (Well, a mod now..) Has as high of standards as me, if not higher! And votes no just about as much as me, if not more! So why aren't you flaming him? I've never heard you say anything to him about that..

Boreas

2007-05-18 22:37:21

It's simple, there are 2 things to do on a forum, read and post.

If he wants to read threads or DL scripts, there's nothing we can do to stop him from going on GoF's. So that leaves one thing: posting.

If he doesn't post before becoming a member, it stands to reason that he won't after. So he would be a member doing nothing, get the yellow title, but nobody would see it lol.

No.

rkroxpunk

2007-05-19 00:58:21

Yes, people agreed with u but i dont see any reason to be so obsessive about this topic? Just because he disagreed with u? Because now it seems to be the number 1 thing to you to prove that he doesnt deserve the membership.. As u have posted atleast 6 times on this thread just to prove that and thats just weird.


err he's not the only one "getting obsessive just because he disagreed with u"…..Everything u just said works the same for u :s It seems the number 1 thing to you GOF to prove that he does deserve membership. "s u have posted atleast 6 times on this thread just to prove that and thats just weird."
Same with u…..maybe not quite 6 but doesn't matter…….
I agree with Boreas. Who's to say if he doesn't want to contribute now who's to say he will later??
JAD and GOF I like u both but you should both just chill. It's just an app and u have both taken this offtopic to things that weren't needed. I doubt i've helped the situation but I think this thread should just be closed. I can't see him getting in and this thread will just continually be spammed with arguments :s

Boreas

2007-05-19 01:06:10

I would have closed it with my No. but I am giving a while for him to respond.

rkroxpunk

2007-05-19 02:10:15

Oh I'm not sure if he will I think he got the impression he wasn't meant to say anything until we say yes….? :confused:

n3ss3s

2007-05-19 08:59:11

[OFFTOPIC] RAM_RUNE where the hell are you from? And what was that language it was reeeeeaaaalllyyyy baaaad finnish. Like ud live 1 week in finland then you will speak like that. lol wtf dunno some random shit idk nvm

Pentti

2007-05-19 09:04:39

From: n3ss3s
[OFFTOPIC] RAM_RUNE where the hell are you from? And what was that language it was reeeeeaaaalllyyyy baaaad finnish. Like ud live 1 week in finland then you will speak like that. lol wtf dunno some random shit idk nvm

Hehe, Hes text was taken from English-Finnish transtaler, I knew one before. (Copy and paste whole sentence you want to translate)
I understood more your english than finnish. :D

But anyways RAM, I'd suggest you still keep on english. :D

RAM

2007-05-19 12:50:59

From: Pentti
Hehe, Hes text was taken from English-Finnish transtaler, I knew one before. (Copy and paste whole sentence you want to translate)
I understood more your english than finnish. :D

But anyways RAM, I'd suggest you still keep on english. :D



I was making a point, and that point IS….. It was mentioned here, that the majority of the people here speak English, but yet, A few of you (INCLUDING THE APPLICANT) choose to carry on a a conversation in your native language which not many people understand….I was merely trying to express common courtesy in trying to post my comment in languages in which the applicant and other interested parties would understand…..At least I made an attempt for this…. and Yes, it was a web based translator…

RAM

omgh4x0rz

2007-05-19 14:26:21

I agree with the JAD/Boreas/RAM group

I might have voted yes, but I don't like the attitude you've been giving us.

Abyssal

2007-05-19 16:18:09

Well, this is interesting.

I for one, voted yes. People have gotten in on worse applications.

IMO we need to keep a standard for apps, not vote yes for "ok" scripts and no for amazing scripts, but he didn't post enough.

JAD

2007-05-19 16:32:18

From: Abyssal
Well, this is interesting.

I for one, voted yes. People have gotten in on worse applications.

IMO we need to keep a standard for apps, not vote yes for "ok" scripts and no for amazing scripts, but he didn't post enough.


Would you call this an amazing script? I'd say its an ok script, that's one of the reasons I think some of us voted no.

Of course if he had an amazing script we would let him in (probably), but this is ok in my opinion.

Ashur2Good

2007-05-20 05:07:41

I voted no, sorry. Maybe if you are more active and have a better attitude I might vote yes :/


-Ashur

n3ss3s

2007-05-20 05:09:05

Also JAD, u seem to say no to everyone unless theyre the next WT-Fakawi or something

[OFFTOPIC] JAD voted yes for me! Tym I'm
the next WT-Fakawi

JAD

2007-05-20 11:09:31

From: n3ss3s
[OFFTOPIC] JAD voted yes for me! Tym I'm


Lol, you forgot to close that with the [/OFFTOPIC] Tag. I'm going back to your app and voting no now! :p

And see? No offense n3ss3s, but you aren't the next fakawi, although you could be with a LOT of practice :p

So I don't only vote yes for the greatest scripters in the world, although n3ss3s is a good scripter.

Abyssal

2007-05-20 11:15:59

I didnt say the script was amazing.
Nor did I say it was bad.

JAD

2007-05-20 11:32:03

From: Abyssal
I didnt say the script was amazing.
Nor did I say it was bad.


I didn't mean for it to come out like you said it did, sorry.


I don't think he's getting in so I think an admin/mod should lock/close this topic.

GoF

2007-05-20 12:35:34

:) I think he did well, and could have done better if JAD would have left this thread alone (i mean posted once, said no told hes opinions not started all kinds of advertising and digging up any reason for anyone to say no) .. Alot of views and posts and votes for this thread :)

And from Harled (wont bother to post himself :p)

"I thought this community was more about programming, not about getting to know people , being social or answering questions to noobies or leechers. I might apply again in a month, but im not planning on starting to answer questions to noobs cause they piss me off and ill rather try to get in only with scripting, not kissing ass or helping people, and JAD, if or when i apply next time, dont take over the thread." or something like that cant remember everything exactly, but he said u can close this, and also, is the month counted from the last time someone has posted a appliance or after the last one gets closed?

Pentti

2007-05-20 12:56:00

From: GoF
And from Harled (wont bother to post himself :p)

"I thought this community was more about programming, not about getting to know people , being social or answering questions to noobies or leechers. I might apply again in a month, but im not planning on starting to answer questions to noobs cause they piss me off and ill rather try to get in only with scripting, not kissing ass or helping people, and JAD, if or when i apply next time, dont take over the thread." or something like that cant remember everything exactly, but he said u can close this, and also, is the month counted from the last time someone has posted a appliance or after the last one gets closed?

Well, I can tell you that Harled has came here with wrong attitude. :D

JAD

2007-05-20 13:01:01

From: GoF
:) I think he did well, and could have done better if JAD would have left this thread alone (i mean posted once, said no told hes opinions not started all kinds of advertising and digging up any reason for anyone to say no) .. Alot of views and posts and votes for this thread :)

And from Harled (wont bother to post himself :p)

"I thought this community was more about programming, not about getting to know people , being social or answering questions to noobies or leechers. I might apply again in a month, but im not planning on starting to answer questions to noobs cause they piss me off and ill rather try to get in only with scripting, not kissing ass or helping people, and JAD, if or when i apply next time, dont take over the thread." or something like that cant remember everything exactly, but he said u can close this, and also, is the month counted from the last time someone has posted a appliance or after the last one gets closed?


A month from the time he applied I think..

And I didn't mean to take over this thread, but GoF, you were insulting me and I was defending myself, thats it.

I hope we can still be friends.. But I still don't get why you insulted me so much when all I was trying to do is give Harled constructive critisism, and my reason for voting no like he requested and wanted.

Anyways.. I'm done with this topic now :p

GoF

2007-05-20 13:37:40

Umm.. This was like a trial or something for him.. And i understand constructive critisism, but not when theres +10 posts of critisism.

@Pentti, I dont help people either.. Or very rarely if i do.. I dont see it as a wrong attitude if he came here for the scripting, not the leechers.

Adamb_135

2007-05-20 14:12:37

I like the script except for 1 thing,

function WeAreInLumbridgeCastle: Boolean;
begin
if FindSymbol(x, y, 'water') then
begin
Result := True;
Writeln('We are at lumby!');
Writeln('Damnit!');
Players[CurrentPlayer].Active := False;
LogOut;
end;
end;

I believe there's a water symbol in the chickens by fally/port sarim, and probably alot of other places, other than lumbridge. But i do agree that you need to get a little more posts and if you learned how to script from tutorials LEAVE FEEDBACK, becuase i doubt you learned by yourself, unless gof taught you. NO from me, sorry.

GoF

2007-05-20 14:18:07

He knows delphi, so basically he only needed to learn commands from SRL include.

RAM

2007-05-20 17:58:06

Gof, Please send my deepest regards to Harled that it ended like this, I think I speak for the majority of the community, when I say , that "We want all of the good talent we can here"….

It is My Humbelest Opinion that…..I also truly believe, that if he would have had a better attitude and been a bit more receptive, that with a few changes, he could have got in with this script….However, seeing that he doesn't even have the decency to reply himself, I would have you relay the message to him, to not bother again in a month…the views that have been expressed here over the last few days aren't going to change and with his poor attitude, unless the script logs in and runs for 148 hours achieving 99 stats in all f2p skills, I see an instant replay of the events in this application……

RAM

Boreas

2007-05-20 22:43:00

Harled has replied (sorta). Closing thread.