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AutismBot

2013-04-15 15:15:52

Yeah, chances are I could be banned or trolled or raged for posting this but I can only say this once, I mean no disrespect.

1) It seems to me that people are not releasing efficiently working bots basically on purpose.

I believe the reason they do this is so that they can make more money than others because atm gold is so expensive.

It is very clear somethings up because bottings been around for sooo many years and all of these bots have already been created multiple times.

I can hardly find a bot that does anything except maybe ashamans agility, and elfyyy's pc. To me it seems that all other bots just bug up and bug out and generally won't perform correctly for more than a few minutes.

Shoot, even RID doesn't seem to be performing optimally since it can't perform certain randoms and randoms are going crazy atm due to Jagex.

If this is because people are selling all good working bots for cash, then please, do pm me and show me where your websites are listed ( I am aware you can't buy here, don't post about that)

2) All combat bots basically are designed so that you can't make cash, it's very clear people don't want competition in gold making for fear of them dropping the price of gold.

Heck, even yohojo, (one of the most experienced scripters from my perspective), has a bot to report other bots…

I mean I understand you guys want to limit the amount of people raking in millions of gold, but honestly why is it that noone has released even 1 single thing to make decent cash. Elfyyy's pc bot is the only bot that has made me any cash.

I mean i just bought 6,666 flax so that I could use this flax spinning bot… but with it not even spinning an inventory successfully, it seems like my lucks being turned against me.

3) Am I Doing Something Wrong?

I am not the most intelligent person ever, I do suffer from minor autism so it takes help from friends and my girlfriend to figure things like antileechs or just minor things like finding what programs to download and stuff, but it seems to me like maybe you guys are happy with the way these scripts work… so is it me that's doing something wrong, if so, what? Or… is it that people don't release their "efficient bots"

Silentcore

2013-04-15 15:21:04

Have you tried posting the errors you get in the scripts thread?? It's not about the money or the low workin scripts being released but it's because 2007 Rs just came out and the plugin, randoms ect. are being worked on. You have to wait just like everyone else for them to be completely up..Thank you..

Kevin

2013-04-15 15:25:16

1) It's not that people are releasing bots not on purpose, but just look at the numbers. Many of the 07 bots that are released (by many, I mean almost all) are written by people who have been here and learned the language/everything else in the last 2 months or so. No offense to anyone is meant by this, but that is a definite lack of experience and as such those people tend to not be capable of releasing as wonderful of scripts. It's a new field with new people, for the most part that means nothing will look very decent. Ashaman however, as your example of someone that is good at scripting, has been here for quite a while and is ranked fairly highly. So it's all about who is releasing these scripts. Not to mention, a lot of people use public releases as a manner of getting people to test their scripts and help them iron out bugs more quickly.

2)Combat bots tend to be designed like that because too many people have issues programming methods of looting. It does tend to earn cash and whatnot else, but the bigger reason is a lack of skill :p

3)If you want better scripts, watch the better scripters. Or learn to script yourself and you'll learn wonders. Programming languages tend to be fairly easy for the autistic people I've known simply due to the way they work being more in tune with their minds, so you should be at an advantage if you dedicate the time to settle it :)

Neznam

2013-04-15 15:46:06

Most of us just want the experience/lvl gain. We don't support goldfarming, but that doesn't mean that it's against any rules. If you want to gold farm, then maybe Simba isn't for you. Since the removal of anti-leech from scripts, many have released beta versions of their scripts so that they cannot be abused, for example someone will make a yew chopper but for powerleveling purposes and not include banking.

Like it was said, there are many scripts in 07 that don't quite fit the standards that they should because of the mass of new people who have just began to learn how to write a script.

I was surprised by Yohojo's bot reporting bots, but there's nothing against that. I can totally understand why you'd say beating out the competition.

Frement

2013-04-15 16:03:47

From: AutismBot
I mean i just bought 6,666 flax so that I could use this flax spinning bot… but with it not even spinning an inventory successfully, it seems like my lucks being turned against me.


You are free to try http://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101505 out.

Rincewind

2013-04-15 16:07:21

You can't really force people to release scripts for you….

AutismBot

2013-04-15 18:37:21

Thanks to everyone for being patient with me.

I understand now that it could be a mutltitude of reasons including people wanting the economy to be balanced/the bots not actually existing yet.

The only reason I assumed the potential to create them was out there was due to the botting websites rsbots.net etc that were destroyed during a bot nuke.

I guess I figured since I see so many bots, perhaps their out there, but its probably just chinese people who created their bots and aren't releasing them.

Anyways, thanks again for your patience and yes I have tried to follow the videos etc, most bots work but just not efficiently yet.

King

2013-04-15 18:45:43

Its been stated in the reasons above, more due to lack of experience and yes you are right, a lot of good scripts are private, or are sold, for that reason, they are good and people want them(: I have several private scripts and I know many other good scripters do as well, same way as EOC.

Chris!

2013-04-16 02:11:52

From: AutismBot

I guess I figured since I see so many bots, perhaps their out there, but its probably just chinese people who created their bots and aren't releasing them.


This was an un-needed and inaccurate statement. I know multiple people who are NOT Chinese that goldfarm both the EoC version and OSRS. I guess that's the stereotype that's been going around but it's not entirely true. Sure, Chinese COMPANIES may do that, but you can't drag regular people from China into that category.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Also, regarding the OP: At Simba, members release scripts that they have made in their time, they do not get paid to make scripts at Villavu. They do not have to release fully up-to-par scripts if it is their wish.

Also, if you have the time, try editing these scripts so they do work to the standard which you are happy with? It's how I learnt some of the knowledge I have of Pascal now.

Flight

2013-04-16 03:13:57

It seems to me the majority of your argument here is based off you being able to run scripts that turn profit. You'll find that we very much look down upon gold-farming here, and if we make scripts that produce large amounts of gold in the mean time they're usually kept in the higher-up boards of the forum specifically to prevent them from being abused.

My other answer has to do with map-walking in OSR. Most good money-making techniques in OSR would require walking around in Runescape. This is a problem because while SPS and ObjectDTMs are incredibly accurate in the current RS they certain won't work as well in OSR. This is for a number of reason, a couple of which are the map angle. We cannot click the compass to set our angle to perfect north, also the minimap is not totally in-line with the angle. While the compass may show us to be at perfect north the minimap may still be titled up to 20 degrees. On top of that when you enter a new region on the map you'll notice the colors will change dramatically. Both of these factors make walking by SPS a real pain.

AutismBot

2013-04-16 05:21:15

From: Flight
It seems to me the majority of your argument here is based off you being able to run scripts that turn profit. You'll find that we very much look down upon gold-farming here, and if we make scripts that produce large amounts of gold in the mean time they're usually kept in the higher-up boards of the forum specifically to prevent them from being abused.

My other answer has to do with map-walking in OSR. Most good money-making techniques in OSR would require walking around in Runescape. This is a problem because while SPS and ObjectDTMs are incredibly accurate in the current RS they certain won't work as well in OSR. This is for a number of reason, a couple of which are the map angle. We cannot click the compass to set our angle to perfect north, also the minimap is not totally in-line with the angle. While the compass may show us to be at perfect north the minimap may still be titled up to 20 degrees. On top of that when you enter a new region on the map you'll notice the colors will change dramatically. Both of these factors make walking by SPS a real pain.


Yes I will admit that cash would be nice, however, not really my main focus. I just need a bot that does what its intended to do with some sort of efficiency. Randoms are expected, and understood.

I have found a couple bots that work really well however and don't mean to disrespect the hard work of this community in anyway. Those who make scripts are the people who add the backbone to this website and I don't mean to insult or disrespect them.

I do understand that goldfarming is frowned upon. However, I can't even really get a bot to fight things with small impact on the community.

Flight

2013-04-16 05:43:35

Alright well what kind of scripts are you looking for specifically? Preferably none that are directly related to turning profit. If it's an auto-fighter you want I can probably release mine that I used long ago.

AutismBot

2013-04-16 06:02:40

Well yes, anything to raise hunting, spin flax, kill chickens lol just about anything to raise stats would be killer.

Idc if it hunts chinchompas then throws them at other chinchompas to get rid of em. I don't mind not getting the cash.

l6bustank

2013-04-16 10:17:14

I dont release my private scripts beacuse it would completely fuck up several parts of the game.

For everything else, Villavu community is all about learning to program by making bots for a game that is otherwise a pain in the ass to grind. l2script and all your problems will disappear :D

litoris

2013-04-16 10:49:12

Most live-game scripts are allright, there are scripts by non-members that work like magic.

Quality is worse in 07 scripts because they all seem to be rushed.

senrath

2013-04-16 10:54:48

From: litoris
Most live-game scripts are allright, there are scripts by non-members that work like magic.

Quality is worse in 07 scripts because they all seem to be rushed.


They are rushed. OSR has only been out for a few months and OSR-SRL is still being put together, really.

Olly

2013-04-16 12:11:27

You cant forget that people don't know how to walk other than SPS which as others have said its pretty bad in OSR.

Millenium

2013-04-16 13:38:28

you could perhaps post the errors and hope they get fixed or maybe stop f**king leeching and learn how to code yourself to a stage where you can spot and fix bugs

Itankbots

2013-04-16 13:38:48

Thanks for the laugh.

AutismBot

2013-04-16 15:33:57

From: ixtowelie
you could perhaps post the errors and hope they get fixed or maybe stop f**king leeching and learn how to code yourself to a stage where you can spot and fix bugs


hey, man. I just wanna say thanks anyway for posting, but truly I am surprised and so are others that I can type and talk so well, let alone bot, I am probably never going to reach the level of coding although the more scripts I use the more I study the bugs and coding.

Flight

2013-04-16 21:19:10

From: ixtowelie
you could perhaps post the errors and hope they get fixed or maybe stop f**king leeching and learn how to code yourself to a stage where you can spot and fix bugs


Take it easy…

From: AutismBot
hey, man. I just wanna say thanks anyway for posting, but truly I am surprised and so are others that I can type and talk so well, let alone bot, I am probably never going to reach the level of coding although the more scripts I use the more I study the bugs and coding.


Oh but you will, you just have to want it enough. Take my word for it, make a single script that does something quite simple and when it works correctly for you you'll have a big burst of joy, not only that you've created your first functional script but that you've hit the stage to where you can create on your own. This will motivate you to continue and you can only improve from here.

Ian

2013-04-16 21:42:26

From: Flight
Oh but you will, you just have to want it enough. Take my word for it, make a single script that does something quite simple and when it works correctly for you you'll have a big burst of joy, not only that you've created your first functional script but that you've hit the stage to where you can create on your own. This will motivate you to continue and you can only improve from here.


I can confirm the big burst of joy thing, not only do you get one when you first make something that works, but you'll get another whenever you try something new and have it work :D

Ashaman88

2013-04-16 23:04:12

We all gotta start somewhere :) I was super fail scripter - I even failed on my first app!


As for scripts, gotta give it time, we all have outside of rs lives to keep up with!

Hoodz

2013-04-19 03:43:45

My combat bot can loot. And a lot of scripts are just working for me. Idk whats wrong

Peanuts

2013-04-25 06:48:53

I didn't read anything after the first post but..

HEAPS Of scripts work…

You should try creating a simple woodcutting script.. It'll take like.. hours… but..
Once you do it.. You can pretty much start to fix up scripts when they dont work n stufff…

But umm.. YEAH.. That flax spinner.. isn't very good..
Though.. if you just find the numbers where it clicks the spinning wheel.. and change them. it'll end up working n clicking on the spinner…

Sorry… im a lil bit intoxicated.. RAGHASHASDFas

For the last week ive fished n mined like crazy…..

kylemanscoalminer —- > AWESOME.. Works for 6 hours easily…

budsguildfisher..
Rangeguilder..
HeavyRodder –> is cool for getting that fish lvl up..

Sometimes bots don't make you much money…
but the exp is worth it….

I was 30 fishing a week ago.. I'm 75 now…
I could go play legit for a few hours and catch sharks n make some alright cash..

Umm… Inbox me if u need help with those scripts i mentioned.. I might've had to fix an error or 2…

But they will work real niceeeeeeee

t4q

2013-04-25 14:45:02

Gold farming is not the priority in this community… You can always add banking and looting for fighting scripts.

slushpuppy

2013-04-25 19:25:06

This is an OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY. IT MEANS IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN STEP UP AND TRY TO FIX WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE. WE DO NOT TAKE "ORDERS".


I hate these sort of pompous topics that implies us scripters are somehow obligated to releasing all the scripts for everyone to use

grats

2013-04-25 19:26:36

* scripts

AutismBot

2013-04-25 20:48:43

From: slushpuppy
This is an OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY. IT MEANS IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN STEP UP AND TRY TO FIX WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE. WE DO NOT TAKE "ORDERS".


I hate these sort of pompous topics that implies us scripters are somehow obligated to releasing all the scripts for everyone to use



Hi, Thank you for your Post!

I understand that I came off as a little unappreciative and I do sincerely apoligize for that.

I personally understand that because certain scripts will truly devastate the game more than it currently is being affected.

I do however plan to purchase, or in SRL's case "donate" for the first script that can kill desert goats in nardah and bank them. Since the banks 1 foot away with no stairs or obstacles it should be pretty simple.

I understand that most scripts can't be released to the general public, however, it could be released to a select few. Although I have attempted to edit scripts and such, I suffer from minor autism and that really does affect my ability to really understand how to add code. I understand what coding does, however, I don't really comprehend the algebraic ties to coding (at least thats what it looks like)

I do appreciate your post and sorry if I offended you

Kevin

2013-04-25 21:47:42

From: AutismBot
Hi, Thank you for your Post!

I understand that I came off as a little unappreciative and I do sincerely apoligize for that.

I personally understand that because certain scripts will truly devastate the game more than it currently is being affected.

I do however plan to purchase, or in SRL's case "donate" for the first script that can kill desert goats in nardah and bank them. Since the banks 1 foot away with no stairs or obstacles it should be pretty simple.

I understand that most scripts can't be released to the general public, however, it could be released to a select few. Although I have attempted to edit scripts and such, I suffer from minor autism and that really does affect my ability to really understand how to add code. I understand what coding does, however, I don't really comprehend the algebraic ties to coding (at least thats what it looks like)

I do appreciate your post and sorry if I offended you

Please, do not donate the script writer, but instead to the site as a whole. It'll also get you a nice cup next to your name :)

To everyone else: Ok, seriously guys. I understand this fellow AutismBot isn't scripting and he isn't exactly making attempts to. And over time, that attitude has kinda turned most of us off to these people as inherent "I deserve the world" leechers. However, this guy here is ridiculously polite. He's taking insults and everything else and turning around being extremely nice in return.

Granted, he may be a leecher with no intention of learning… But he's definitely the nicest one I've seen around, so perhaps a few of us could be a tad nicer to this one instead of being meaner to him than the ones blatantly acting high and mighty as leechers?

weequ

2013-04-26 14:35:59

Hey AutismBot. It's nice to hear that you have been attempting to edit scripts. It's a good start. That's how I started too and I think a lot of people started scripting that way.

AutismBot

2013-04-26 16:29:11

From: weequ
Hey AutismBot. It's nice to hear that you have been attempting to edit scripts. It's a good start. That's how I started too and I think a lot of people started scripting that way.


Hey thanks a bunch for your post.

Yeah I do try to edit some stuff but sometimes it can be really frustrating. I feel like if I knew Simba's limits and commands then I could easily write a script.

But for me I see what the commands people enter actually do, but as far as learning to just free hand type a script out, its really impossible with me unless I had a list of what commands do what. Otherwise im not sure where to begin.

luxrath

2013-04-26 16:52:40

Most people come here and use Simba because they like runescape, but do not want to spend the ridiculous amount of time doing boring repetitive tasks like high alching or mining to get the levels required for the games content (quests, minigames, etc).

Although most of the leechers (me included) probably do have some basic understanding of scripts and coding in general, there is a big knowledge difference between being able to spot some incorrect/silly values or a misplaced if/else, and being able to create a script yourself.

We aren't all idiots (but I am, I spent 10 minutes stumped at a cooking script when I just forgot to set my xp tracker to cook :v) and I really dont like it when people treat others differently because they aren't interested or good at scripting. I am mainly talking about you ixtowelie, the elitism seems to drip off of you in liters. I do find it funny though, that you are acting elitist just because you created a primitive tanner with help of the IRC. Not exactly a dung script :v

randy marsh

2013-04-26 18:20:16

learn to code bro this isnt rsbot

AutismBot

2013-04-27 02:21:20

From: djcheater
learn to code bro this isnt rsbot


Hey man thanks for your post!

Yeah I get that alot, and your right I should definitely learn to code, I actually really look forward to it in the future.

See the problem is that I no matter how much I try I just can't wrap my head around it…

I think someday I can conquer it though if I continue to read scripts and learn what people use to make their scripts do certain tasks.

It probably doesnt help that I suffer from minor autism though and it really makes things hard to focus on. I'm sure its one of those many things where you have to think "outside of the box"

Who knows though, maybe after some time of trying, (itll prolly take alot longer than some of the naturals lol), I can someday make a contribution to SRL that earns even a tiny bit of respect from such talented scripters.

Aph0tix

2013-04-27 09:25:34

From: AutismBot
Hey man thanks for your post!

Yeah I get that alot, and your right I should definitely learn to code, I actually really look forward to it in the future.

See the problem is that I no matter how much I try I just can't wrap my head around it…

I think someday I can conquer it though if I continue to read scripts and learn what people use to make their scripts do certain tasks.

It probably doesnt help that I suffer from minor autism though and it really makes things hard to focus on. I'm sure its one of those many things where you have to think "outside of the box"

Who knows though, maybe after some time of trying, (itll prolly take alot longer than some of the naturals lol), I can someday make a contribution to SRL that earns even a tiny bit of respect from such talented scripters.


Ignore the trolls! Also the reason why banking support isn't offered on many public scripts is because of people who come here and don't contribute to the community, they just literally copy and paste the script and hit run.

On something like a gold mining script if everyone was to do this the price of gold would drop meaning the script would basically be useless as it wouldn't generate any revenue.

burner3287

2013-04-27 11:13:27

hey look another powerbot leecher

randy marsh

2013-04-27 11:24:47

Sorry i dint no u suffer from that , i have mild dyslexia so code can be like wow!
I suggest watching a yohjos video guide on youtube :)


Maybe try make a simple power chopper ?

People might seem hostile here , we just want people to learn and try put some input in.

luxrath

2013-04-27 13:11:01

From: randy marsh
Sorry i dint no u suffer from that , i have mild dyslexia so code can be like wow!
I suggest watching a yohjos video guide on youtube :)


Maybe try make a simple power chopper ?

People might seem hostile here , we just want people to learn and try put some input in.


You complain about hostility, despite being a major contributor to said hostility? u fookin wot m8?

From: randy marsh
learn to code bro this isnt rsbot


Because everyone has time to code between a full time job, sleeping, community commitments and a social life, right. Right? And after working I dont want to sit down and code (aka work) and I dont want to get lectures from an underage dyslexic kid about how knowing coding makes you the bestest of the best 360 no-scope MLG guy.

randy marsh

2013-04-27 13:42:54

Im not saying you have to code , but if u want to its a better option…

AutismBot

2013-04-27 15:44:32

From: randy marsh
Sorry i dint no u suffer from that , i have mild dyslexia so code can be like wow!
I suggest watching a yohjos video guide on youtube :)


Maybe try make a simple power chopper ?

People might seem hostile here , we just want people to learn and try put some input in.


Hey man thanks again and no, I totally understand. This site definitely is good at keeping the economy balanced and I totally agree with others who know that releasing scripts to "leechers" is definitely no benefit to this tight knit community.

I did notice a guide in your signature and to me it seems pretty promising because YoHoJo is a respected member with several other guides and is also pretty reknowned in sythe forums.

Thank you for posting on my thread and I look forward to hopefully someday contributing to you and the rest of the community.

From: burner3287
hey look another powerbot leecher


Hey man thanks for your post!

I have heard alot about powerbot but back in the old rs days I always had a preference to RSBots. I am not sure but I think that bots free. I do always appreciate things when they are free but in my eyes it seems like when you pay for something you actually are contributing back to the community.

If I can never learn to code then perhaps I can donate to SRL and contribute to their community. This would make me feel less useless to all of the generous contributors of SRL.

Plus, the more that was donated to RSBot, the more they seemed to put effort into their scrips.

SRL, however, looks so much more promising and I really hope that someday I can be a significant member of the community.

Shatterhand

2013-04-27 16:42:55

Well, these are the first months of the "game", so its kind of a race to everyone at the moment. Lot of people dont share their scripts yet just because of this. This will fly away after a while, once having 99s isnt that unique.

I have some scripts myself which arent public yet, I might release them in the future (range guilder and superheater). Of course I have my secret money making script too which I will just keep private.

I also started working on an AIO fighter but I must admit its nearly impossible to make one which would work 100% flawless. Scripting on EOC is so much easier, there are lot of extra features there which helps the script navigate itself (minimap quality, hp meter, xp counter, target bar).

acow

2013-04-29 23:09:14

This is by far the least selfish botting community, sorry bud. If you don't like it, you're out of luck :P

AutismBot

2013-04-29 23:24:56

From: Tuk
This is by far the least selfish botting community, sorry bud. If you don't like it, you're out of luck :P


Hey man thanks for your post!

Yeah, its true this community is definitely an extremely generous community.

I just wish maybe there was a way to purchase or donate a certain amount in exchange for some access to more of the material created by our talented members.

I personally struggle to even edit lines of code but I have definitely progressed a bit, its just really hard to understand everything with my autism. For me its more of a focusing thing and the algebraic part of coding is kind of difficult.

I was also never good with graphs.

Again, I really appreciate your post and I hope to someday benefit this community and maybe donate or pay for some exclusive scripts or trade my own!

weequ

2013-04-30 02:59:57

From: AutismBot
Hey thanks a bunch for your post.

Yeah I do try to edit some stuff but sometimes it can be really frustrating. I feel like if I knew Simba's limits and commands then I could easily write a script.

But for me I see what the commands people enter actually do, but as far as learning to just free hand type a script out, its really impossible with me unless I had a list of what commands do what. Otherwise im not sure where to begin.
Simba scripting reference should cover pretty much all simba commands. Then there is the SRL include that is an abstraction and actually uses those simba commands. SRL commands you can view here: https://github.com/SRL/SRL-5. I still suggest learning from other people scripts also because starting from scratch can be difficult.

AutismBot

2013-04-30 03:07:06

From: weequ
Simba scripting reference should cover pretty much all simba commands. Then there is the SRL include that is an abstraction and actually uses those simba commands. SRL commands you can view here: https://github.com/SRL/SRL-5. I still suggest learning from other people scripts also because starting from scratch can be difficult.


Thanks so much for your post.

I feel really dumb like idk if its that I am just a dumb individual or if its my handicap or what but its just so much and to me its like where to begin?

I am actually really ashamed atm because if I just glance at a page and the first words that come to my mind are like wtf, it seems to me that my minds being lazy or maybe I am really stupid.

weequ

2013-04-30 04:21:41

From: AutismBot
Thanks so much for your post.

I feel really dumb like idk if its that I am just a dumb individual or if its my handicap or what but its just so much and to me its like where to begin?

I am actually really ashamed atm because if I just glance at a page and the first words that come to my mind are like wtf, it seems to me that my minds being lazy or maybe I am really stupid.
I think you should start with something simple, like an autotalker. First find a command that sends keys and then find out how to repeat that action ;)

Edit: Another good way to start with is following YoHoJo's video tutorias as someone already suggested.

samerdl

2013-04-30 05:53:24

Most of the scripts posted in 07 section are by new users on srl forums, there isn't much SRL-member standard scripts because the official include isn't out yet, and they are still trying to overcome some technical issues, but there is no rush - this is open source.

I never tried to farm gold, my intention has always been to grind exp - on which Simba helped me accomplish.

As others have said, we all have to start from some where, go from the small to the big, start by making a simple mouse clicker/chat typer script, and let it evolve. I've been around scar/simba for a decade now, each time i wanted to learn how to script for Scar - i gave up, the guides were just a bit to confusing for me. As For simba i find it there is much more guides, we can read the same commands from many different perspectives and usages, eventually it sinks in into our brains and becomes clear as crystal.

Just take it easy and go slow, it took me about a two months but now i finally understand What TPA'S are and how to use them, and how to read wizzups's plugin, see its fun to read this stuff.

Its also very time consuming.

Also you can see that the community is really nice here, they are very welcoming; who gives respect gets respect.