SRL Archive - Discussions & Debates

I was wondering what the community's opinions were on farming gold. I personally believe it's okay if the gold is being farmed solely for the advancement of your character (I'm farming nature runes so I can afford the buyables for my main). How does SRL feel about farming gold for real world currency?

Personally I dont agree with gold farming directly. If you are farming mats, they should be used to train YOUR skills, not just to increase your pocket change.

Farm the materials you need. For example, running a nat crafting script is good if you are going to use the nats in conjunction with a high alch or super heating script. If you are going to just sell the nats and buy herbs/gear then it drives the nat market down and inflates the herb market for legit players.

One method for making gold that wont adversely affect the market is: Wood Cutting script + Fletching script + Nature crafter + High alch. Buying the bow strings and pure ess is cheap and boosts income for new players. This method wont make you 20 mil a day, but it has almost zero economic impact and gives you xp in multiple skills.

Yay. My 69th post.

From: Angel Heart
Personally I dont agree with gold farming directly. If you are farming mats, they should be used to train YOUR skills, not just to increase your pocket change.

Farm the materials you need. For example, running a nat crafting script is good if you are going to use the nats in conjunction with a high alch or super heating script. If you are going to just sell the nats and buy herbs/gear then it drives the nat market down and inflates the herb market for legit players.

One method for making gold that wont adversely affect the market is: Wood Cutting script + Fletching script + Nature crafter + High alch. Buying the bow strings and pure ess is cheap and boosts income for new players. This method wont make you 20 mil a day, but it has almost zero economic impact and gives you xp in multiple skills.

Yay. My 69th post.

I agree

My opinion is kinda neutral about it. Btw what is considered gold farming? Is it gold farming if you make money from duel arena because you are not generating any money to the game?

From: weequ
My opinion is kinda neutral about it. Btw what is considered gold farming? Is it gold farming if you make money from duel arena because you are not generating any money to the game?

I agree with this.
Goldfarming doesn't even mean botting it can just be some Chinese or whatever guy doing kiln runs for $$$ (what's with the Chinese goldfarmer hate anyway - i bet there's hardly any of them on Runescape anyway and it's all just sad little kids who still live with their parents)

Honestly, don't blame the farmer if you don't like it and ask yourself this:
Do I consider the value of virtual meaningless 'gold coins' to have a real life value?
Most of you that play this game will probably answer with a yes and even if no deep down you know you're a sad little kid who still plays Runescape and the answer is yes.
Don't blame the farmer, blame yourself.

No offence villavu.

From: weequ
My opinion is kinda neutral about it. Btw what is considered gold farming? Is it gold farming if you make money from duel arena because you are not generating any money to the game?

Personally, I consider gold farming doing anything to gain large quantities of in game currency/currency equivalent with the intent to sell for real world money. But that's just me.

I hate the gold farming bots, I hate the whole bot thing being abused. But then, to stop my son wasting months/years of his childhood clicking the same spot over and over again for just a few RSG in order to buy even the most basic of 'nice' stuff to enjoy the content more, I purchased him RSG use RWM, and he gets to spend more time outside with his real friends.
So I guess it's a case of hating something…..until you need to use it, then it's okay. Then I'll go back to hating it when I don't need it any more!

I really don't care. I prefere people that don't go over too many accounts and try to use methods that don't affect other users (e.g. fishing over woodcutting.)
but other than that I don't care…
The SRL objective is to blend in however, so 50 accounts doing the same thing on the same thing isn't exactly "blending in".

From: senrath
Personally, I consider gold farming doing anything to gain large quantities of in game currency/currency equivalent with the intent to sell for real world money. But that's just me.

Ok. I was just wondering if gold farming means the act of producing gold in a game and then selling it –> ruining the in-game economy for legit players. With staking this doesn't really happen because you're not producing any in-game currency or items.

If they are making real money from the gold I think it is wrong, but if they are making real money through one account (I did this for a while through my merchanting, I think it is gray area)

If it ruins the game for other people I believe we shouldn't do it

Those Coal Bots are Full Of Sh*t Resource Dung Is Crawling With GF bots

i think goldfarming is wrong. yes i contradict myself since i ran a pretty hefty farm before i quit. but besides the point i liked the money and i enjoyed doing it. i think it ruins the economy but someone is gunna do it so why kick yourself for not doing it while you can? @Sjoekeloe what do you think? ;)

From: idodew
i think goldfarming is wrong. yes i contradict myself since i ran a pretty hefty farm before i quit. but besides the point i liked the money and i enjoyed doing it. i think it ruins the economy but someone is gunna do it so why kick yourself for not doing it while you can? @Sjoekeloe what do you think? ;)

I love gp'sssssssssssss :)

No seriously, don't really mind at all. as long villavu is out of the radar!
I do this for fun , for some extra pocketchange.

From: [XoL]

If it ruins the game for other people I believe we shouldn't do it

This pretty much sums if up for me.

If you're running swarms of yew or coal bots, that just ruins the experience for any legit player trying to make some money because they can't compete for resources. If it's obvious that you're a bot too that's just salt in the wound, it's one thing competing for ore with another player but it sucks to be constantly beaten to the ore by a bot.

I don't goldfarm much but when I do, I buy pins from my friend Benny..

I would Goldfarm, but dont got the Resources to do it

I once ran 100 accounts on a 50GB VPS.
I got real tired of the work to upkeep and quit.

But goldfarming is fine in my eyes.

I don't like bot armies who just do one motion and bank. I think botters should stick to one or two accounts.
Maybe I'm just jealoes cuz I can't run armies due to my bad PC :D

From: Physic
I would Goldfarm, but dont got the shit to do it.
Excuse my language.

I use vps personally. I buy all membership and everything with rsgp so I never spend irl money on botting :P

I have an army but I don't really gold farm. My army just collects resources which I then use then to level up my main, meaning all the buyables are basically free :)

From: Silentcore
I don't goldfarm much but when I do, I buy pins from my friend Benny..

#makingthosebills

I couldn't goldfarm simply because I get too interested in leveling the account up :)

From: Benny
#makingthosebills

I couldn't goldfarm simply because I get too interested in leveling the account up :)

And I can't afford to spend my time on goldfarming because im training all those hard skills..

Short and simple -

Pro - Makes materials cheaper and easier to buy. They also sort of shield us casual botters from Jagex.

Cons - Ruins the point in training some skills, and ruins the highscores :(

So, hypothetically speaking, what if I was using a script I wrote myself? I'm not abusing anyone's script and making the most out of my work.

From: Zeds
So, hypothetically speaking, what if I was using a script I wrote myself? I'm not abusing anyone's script and making the most out of my work.

If you goldfarm on a script you personally made, it's okay because its your efford that was taken to make the script..It's goldfarming but in a legit way, in other words, not leeching..

From: Silentcore
If you goldfarm on a script you personally made, it's okay because its your efford that was taken to make the script..It's goldfarming but in a legit way, in other words, not leeching..

Ah I see. Thanks for the opinion :)

From: Silentcore
If you goldfarm on a script you personally made, it's okay because its your efford that was taken to make the script..It's goldfarming but in a legit way, in other words, not leeching..

Sme mass gold farmers use their own private clients so its kind of the same thing then -.-

Too my knowledge, I thought GF was just hording GP to sell later? Or Items to sell for GP to sell off for IRL money?
Is that much too different then people selling their accounts or their rares?

I actually don't see it affecting the in game economy that much :p

Idk though, maybe times change? Haven't played in a couple months.
~Rez

I always thought goldfarming meant swapping real life money with Video game currency.
So in essence if that does happen and it isn't sponsored by the designers of the game or monitored by an authority it could lead to a lot of bad things, i.e sweat-shops, violence between people and possibly murder (it has happened in the past, and will happen again), credit fraud and more evil deeds..

Am totally against it, weather its Sponsored and monetized by the game company or run as an underground blackmarket by secret communities.

personally i bought membership with RSgp in the past, when i was younger, the first time i got membership i did it with PaybyCash, then i bought it with RSGP for a while, and after i got scammed i just took my moms credit card and used it till i got old enough to get my own credit card and never needed to depend on anyone anymore.

So am pretty much against it even though i did it.

I don't mind farming gold for personal use or just have one account on farm to sell it.
However i do have problems with greedy people that ruin the game for everyone by running 10+ bots 24/7

I'd say Gold Farming is a sensitive subject for all of us here…some of us are here to farm gold whilst some of us are probably here to only advance our main character, I personally do both! ;)

Banning Gold farming IMO is just another way for the man to keep us down!

Ok on a serious note, Gold Farming ruins the economy of the game and ruins the game for people who are trying to play. Yes it helps us by shielding us from Jagex but really at what cost. I mean when i was trying to level up my character using my script, there were so many bots that it was ridiculous. I mean of course I made my script super fast and not human like but at the same time its a pain in the ass to deal with so many bots at the same time.

imagine what would ore and log prices be if there were no GFs. For a legit player it's pointless to mine rune essence or coal.

Gold farming for personal use is ok.
Gold farming to make a little money, sure I guess maybe ok.
Gold farming to make loads of money…. lameeeeee.

Goldfarming is kinda what has killed runescape… aside from Jagex's terrible updates, anyways. Mostly due to updates.

From: Sawyer
Goldfarming is kinda what has killed runescape… aside from Jagex's terrible updates, anyways. Mostly due to updates.

Sadly I completely agree with you! Those updates get worse and worse over time! Its like they are running out of ideas so they start making bad decisions.

Goldframing Slaughters The Game Full Stop.

From: Sawyer
Goldfarming is kinda what has killed runescape… aside from Jagex's terrible updates, anyways. Mostly due to updates.

I do agree with this.
Gold farmers uses a lot of bots and it ruins the gold economy. Like for example in EOC.
And now try to observe in RS07, when recently the gold prices are beginning to get low.

Yeah, gold farming is bad. Leads to other bad things like thieving(scamming) IRL cash.

From: Silentcore
If you goldfarm on a script you personally made, it's okay because its your efford that was taken to make the script..It's goldfarming but in a legit way, in other words, not leeching..

At what point does, using parts of other peoples scripts, become not leeching?

I have invested many hours into a personal woodcutting script, at first I completely used another person's script. "Definition of leeching" I then started editing their script more and more with bits and pieces of other peoples scripts. So midway through I had this bastard of a script that was getting very messy, buggy and hard to work with. I then went through many phases completely re-writing the script from scratch, using the previous script as an outline. After a good couple weeks working with this script, I feel I can comfortably say it's all mine, or I have the supporting knowledge to write what they have already written. I now also have the knowledge to write other basic scripts dew to my efforts, and spot useful parts of other scripts that would help mine. Exmp. The declare players function, someone had to come up with that, but everyone uses it in their script. There is many ways to make a proggy function, but there are some basic ones that most people use/borrow and edit from others.

Sorry for being a bit off topic,
Thank you for your replies!

From: Sawyer
Yeah, gold farming is bad. Leads to other bad things like thieving(scamming) IRL cash.

Indeed it would lead to scamming but whats the point of them farming gold if they will just scam?
I believe that, the people who bought gold to a gold farmer will be risky due to most of them are using bot. And in terms of buying gold using IRL cash/real money, I would prefer to use a safe exchange platform like Playerauctions to avoid those. So basically scam in buying gold can be easily avoid.

I think the botting is bad, though I'm (obviousy) still doing it.

Goldfarming is nothing worse imo

From: TheeMason
At what point does, using parts of other peoples scripts, become not leeching?

I have invested many hours into a personal woodcutting script, at first I completely used another person's script. "Definition of leeching" I then started editing their script more and more with bits and pieces of other peoples scripts. So midway through I had this bastard of a script that was getting very messy, buggy and hard to work with. I then went through many phases completely re-writing the script from scratch, using the previous script as an outline. After a good couple weeks working with this script, I feel I can comfortably say it's all mine, or I have the supporting knowledge to write what they have already written. I now also have the knowledge to write other basic scripts dew to my efforts, and spot useful parts of other scripts that would help mine. Exmp. The declare players function, someone had to come up with that, but everyone uses it in their script. There is many ways to make a proggy function, but there are some basic ones that most people use/borrow and edit from others.

Sorry for being a bit off topic,
Thank you for your replies!

I don't think this is leeching. If you update the script and change it drastically, I think it's okay.

made my own script and phat set with it. Im ok with it i guess.

From: Tuk
I think the botting is bad, though I'm (obviousy) still doing it.

Goldfarming is nothing worse imo

So you are saying that you are only using bot to level up your character?
based on experience you will get the urge of getting back your subscription fee using bot.

From: Namie19
So you are saying that you are only using bot to level up your character?
based on experience you will get the urge of getting back your subscription fee using bot.

That's not at all what I said lol, how are you drawing up that conclusion?

I said that, imo all botting is bad and goldfarming isn't worse.
So I'm saying, If I'm botting up my characters levels, I am definitely going to jump into goldfarming too.

I don't mind botting on skills where there is little to no competition (woodcutting Ivy, mining LRC, ect) but when bots come and ruin a place like green dragons, blue dragons, black dragons, ect and I can't kill them for a slayer task, then I don't approve.

It should be fine if you only use it for yourself.

I hate gold farmers, and the people who do it.

I'm a gold hoarder. I probably have several hundred mil on my account, but I use it to further my character….Ok, that's a lie. I haven't been on in forever. I am just using it to take up data space on JageX's servers at this point.

From: Kyle Undefined
I hate gold farmers, and the people who do it.

I'm a gold hoarder. I probably have several hundred mil on my account, but I use it to further my character….Ok, that's a lie. I haven't been on in forever. I am just using it to take up data space on JageX's servers at this point.

The data space you use doesn't increase if you have more gold :P

From: masterBB
The data space you use doesn't increase if you have more gold :P

It does if you have multiple stacks of gold, though.

From: masterBB
The data space you use doesn't increase if you have more gold :P

Haha yeah, I know. However, I am making them store the value in their database. As small of a data value it is, it's still taking up space :)

Obviously gold farming is bad. Devalues currency and items making it harder for non-goldfarmers to play which is 99% of the RS population. Now I used to run 3-4 accounts to support my main and I don't care if people do that but the gold farmers who have armies of dragon killers or yew choppers I do not like at all.

From: Rincewind
Obviously gold farming is bad. Devalues currency and items making it harder for non-goldfarmers to play which is 99% of the RS population. Now I used to run 3-4 accounts to support my main and I don't care if people do that but the gold farmers who have armies of dragon killers or yew choppers I do not like at all.

99%? i think it's more like 50% = botting players and goldfarming companies the other 50% = legit players, scammers, stakers, and "ex" gamblers
just a guess but i think it's pretty accurate

From: westkevin12
99%? i think it's more like 50% = botting players and goldfarming companies the other 50% = legit players, scammers, stakers, and "ex" gamblers
just a guess but i think it's pretty accurate

I didn't include the actual botter armies, I meant that for every one player, they usually have one account (Irregardless if they bot or not). If 50% of the players on RS had botting armies then gold would be $0.01 per mil.

From: Rincewind
I didn't include the actual botter armies, I meant that for every one player, they usually have one account (Irregardless if they bot or not). If 50% of the players on RS had botting armies then gold would be $0.01 per mil.

oh for sure lol :P whips would cost 1bill econemy would be trash

From: westkevin12
oh for sure lol :P whips would cost 1bill econemy would be trash

someone told me whips were under 100k now, is that true?

From: chongc
someone told me whips were under 100k now, is that true?

I think you can get them under 100k in eoc but they are holding a good price in osrs

From: chongc
someone told me whips were under 100k now, is that true?

If only they were 100k… 80k or less now

How did whips get brought up lol